We did it just right. We could grow Mr. Simpson's blood DNA and it would come out on a southern blot test to read as Mr. O.J. Simpson's blood or at least his DNA right in a gandriana bottle. So what is this thing they've got going? You know it's a show and tell to end them all in Hollywood. So you've got that element, but I want to tell you, you've got the world controllers who will be meeting in Switzerland in June, and they are big honchos. And they're going to be the ones deciding whether to push you off the map, along with those silly little Jews. And then there is the Hebrew element who is going to get wiped out first, and they won't hear. They won't hear beyond your anti-Semitic. Who told you? The ADL.

Oh, what do you know about the ADL? It's the Anti-Defamation League. Oh, who started it? Well, B'nai B'rith. B.S. British Intelligence started it. What did the British have to do with it? Good question. I would like some words that fit these elements. I'm once again giving a loud, clear, succinct, explicit message. Leave my people alone and get on with your agreements or I will take out your mountain in Switzerland. Now try me. Yes. Really?

Make my millennium. I really am fed up if nobody noticed. And on that vein, I want to talk about these diseases. Some of the ones that are going around right now will be taken out with the colloidal silver. So we don't have to have a big, massive push. These are the ones that are in the United States right now known as bubonic plague that they've scattered everywhere now. And how simple is it and how do you know that they're going to lose it elsewhere other than in these higher regions? a patriot from one of these fringe groups who had ordered three vials of bubonic plague organisms and he only had to pay $300 for them.

That means they've got it, they're going to turn it loose on you so they can blame again the lax system and the fringe patriots. You know, these crazy elements like McVeigh. McVeigh is a programmed unfortunate soul. I don't understand why, when McVeigh said, I can't help myself, I've got a chip in my butt. Oh, sure you do, boy, ho, ho, ho. And then they come right out on the news and say Prince Andrew or William or whoever it is is going off to boarding school so they are putting a chip in his rear so they can keep tabs on him and nobody steals him.

Now you tell me how one is so laughable and the other is so proper. You got problems. And we're going to show this and then we'll talk about this. Would somebody just come plug this thing in? Some people will do anything to get attention. Or a day off or whatever. I don't know if he'll be ready for August. He won't. You can count on it. I can see him blowing up that light beam now.

Limping. Medical troops on the ground need to be informed. And let me tell you about Desert Storm Syndrome and the risks to the public. This is the tail end of the first one....parasite called Threshemoniasis. This is as old as the Bible and it has plagued and killed people from the beginning of time. There is a form of... That's an interesting way to turn. That's an interesting way to turn. I want to find out what's going on with the blood.

It is transmitted via the bite of a sand flake of saliva. However, should one who is suffering give their blood, that blood is contaminated. And these vets are constantly recruiting to give their blood. As a matter of fact, there is an award called the General Ronald Blank Award for blood donation. Especially if you're an active duty or a recorder, then you get blood donation. It is also a safe choice. It's a fact. I used to do that all the time. Let's take a break. We'll be back right after this. Thank you. So...

I've got to ask the question. This is a doctor who maybe didn't answer this a few years ago. No, no, no, leave it alone. I remember when we first started talking about the AIDS virus, every magazine, every newspaper immediately called it the homo, homo, the homosexual cancer. And don't worry about it, it's not going to affect us. It can't affect you, you can't catch it unless you have sex. Next thing you know, it's in the blood supply. Next thing you know, we don't really know how you get it. We don't know if this virus, HIV, we don't know what's going on with this.

Are we going to find out the same thing five years from now when it comes to the Hantavirus and we come to this meningitis and we come to this? What's going on? First, I just want to address back to the other segment the whole Gulf War Syndrome. People have to understand it is a set of symptoms that I believe 5 or 10,000 soldiers who have been stationed in the Gulf War, and this is back in 1990, 1991, complain about. That's incorrect. Let me say it first.

Absolutely. But the symptoms are, as far as I understand, and I don't profess to be an expert, I'm an infectious disease specialist, but headache, muscle aches, joint aches, fatigue, memory loss, intestinal problems. I must say, as of yet, there is no one diagnosis that explains everything. There is absolutely no proof that it is transmitted by an infectious agent. I must just give you the facts for now. You must please check with Dr. McGill at the Walter Reed Army Hospital, who will inform you that by his own calculations, there are at least 30,000 vets infected with Elysium Aniasis parasite.

There are a number of factors contributing to desert storm syndrome including chemical warfare agents those which are contagious to the direct public to the general public includes bacterial warfare agents. We keep hearing stuff all the time, literature coming out about different writers and people saying that a lot of things like this Ebola virus and the way that it's kind of mutated and now it's doing its new thing is all because of chemical warfare agents. We've heard that drug warfare is all because of chemical warfare agents. Did we do this to ourselves? We're not so smart that we've done this to ourselves. There is absolutely no truth and I believe it's paranoia and I'm not going to lie. You will see that she works for the CDC in a minute. There's all exploded and unexploded silver canisters with different colorings, skulls, and crossbones.

I'll let you hear it play out. If you were radioing in a tank, this is your position. You see these... Are you going to stay there? I'm not leaving. I'm trying to communicate. You misunderstood me. I don't mean paranoia. There certainly was chemical exposure. We know that the burning oil wells in Kuwait released petroleum. That's not paranoia. What I'm saying is paranoia. It's a fake government created...

I've got to conclude the show. Does everybody want to come back against me. Well, one of the bottom line should we be so afraid or should we just is there something we can write to somebody we can call? We call the Congress and the Senate. All right. Let us to the president say do something. Tell me what we need to do today. We'll be back there. Perfect. I think Montiel to Williams. I never watch him. It was on Washington lots of time. And therefore I didn't even get the start of either program. I went searching and found him on again. We're going to go to pause.

I think the most important thing for individuals is actually set up checkposts. They're not letting people cross borders. I read this morning that Angola, the army has sealed up the border with other countries and sealed borders. Now, there is no direct flight to New York City or to the United States, but they actually are checking in airports now. Any flight leaving Zaire, patients are being checked before, they're being checked when they arrive, their physicians there. I also understand from reading last night that they're setting up, they're ready to do quarantine in New York City, in Chicago, I believe in Florida, and California.

No, no, Patricia, now that tells me something. If we're ready to do quarantine here somebody is worried oh of course we're concerned but the difference between alarm concern preparation I agree wholeheartedly with that let me make this point perfectly clear but let me quote to you from the center for disease control who recently issued a report that said that the United States of America is ill-prepared to deal with these types of exotic infectious diseases arising out of the tropics. And that in fact we have inadequate surveillance to detect the diseases and that in fact we have medical personnel who are ill prepared to detect and treat the diseases. With that said, if there's one message to take home today, it is that public health in this country has better become a priority.

Immediately. Immediately. And that we should use this Ebola as a warning sign. Now what you're not hearing from the Center for Disease Control is that Ebola virus is sexually transmittable, that it can in fact spread from one who has had the disease and the latency period is as long as 7 weeks. Following the contagion. I'm sorry, 20 days. No, it's 7 days.

I'm sorry. 20 days is still a good portion of time to get from Zaire to here. Oh, absolutely. And when they say that we're okay because there's no flight from Zaire to here, something's wrong here. You can get there. It's not a direct flight. My question that goes along with this whole thing by the boat when I first came out of the Hinton is, right my question because all of this will be my goal at first hand i don't know if it's a good look at the news not spread by and so they didn't go to work you have to be a really direct contact with these people and even if it was sexual transmission not only was it one of the five months now they're all there are still a lot of young women No, you definitely have in one hand that it's not sexually transmitted for the most part.

There's been one case of sexual transmission recognized in the late 70s. And it's been in the period of time of seven weeks. There has been one case of sexual transmission where it was in semen. That's only once, and that was in the late 70s, and it has not occurred now. We're saying it's not the main mode of transmission. The nuns were assisting in surgery in the hospital in Kipwit, Zaire, and that's how they acquired it. Is it airborne? That's a good question. No one knows at this point. We know it's transmitted by tissue exposure, by blood exposure, by other excretion exposure.

If someone is coughing and coughing it up or sneezing and in respiratory secretions, it's not through them, but most likely it is transmitted that way. That's correct. That's what we're talking about. That is correct. I'm going to check. I'm going to check. We are uncertain of the host as well. We do not know the cause of this disease. We suspect it may be a green monkey.

We are not entirely certain of that. It could be anything. We don't know. I want to take a break. What we want to do now is stop for a second. I want to make sure that you at home watch the show. Do not run out today and pick up the phone and call the Center for Disease Control and then call your local doctor and say, oh my goodness, my uncle said that the virus was here today. That's not what we're saying.

What I want to do is bring some of these issues to your attention, so that we can give them enough credit. So the public being able to discern what they need to know, what they don't want to know. We have people here on the show. We have four different families on the show, all affected by four different viruses, one of which the government still won't claim exists, and that's the Persian Gulf Syndrome. We'll talk about that when we come back a little later on.

So we'll take a little break and we'll come back with me and a young mother who just lost her two-year-old son from a very, very dangerous virus. We'll be back right after this. APPLAUSE Welcome, welcome. If you'll just tune in, we're talking today about this outbreak, the outbreak and the scare. And that's really what I want to talk about, the scare going through this country right now, about the viruses that we've heard so much about, the diseases that we've heard so much about, but we've really heard so little about. Please welcome Nori and her mother Gloria to the show. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Nori recently lost her son Cory to meningococcal meningitis, which is not a virus but is now, I've been told, as we were corrected earlier, a bacteria. What happened to your son, Nori? It was Thursday, the 27th of April and we'd been at my mom's all day and he laid down for a nap and woke up about 30 minutes later and he seemed sick. He acted like he was sick so I was helping him throw up all over himself. So I put him in the sink and cleaned him up and he felt real hot so we took his temperature and it was 105 plus.

And before the thermometer stopped, you know, we decided to take him to the emergency room. And we took him to the emergency room and they told us that he had a virus. And that he would have the temperature, he was going to have a fever, you know. He must have said 105, but I've heard viruses. God never set a hundred and five, but he tells me he's got four babies. He's two years old at the time, right? Mm-hmm. And what did they say to you then? Um, well, I had said, because I'm a young mother, I told them, um, that he, um, wasn't my only child.

I had another child, and I've been around a lot of children. And, um, I've never been around a child that had a temperature that high, but I was very concerned about it, and how long could he have a temperature, and, um, it be okay. And that's when they tell me that he had a virus and he'd probably have a fever and to bring him back in 24 hours. If he was still sick. So you took him back home, you did what they told you to do, you laid down again, but then you checked him the next time. What happened?

Well, I was up with him all night. He was sick all night. He was really sick, all night long, but I felt like I had the reassurance that I needed from the doctor because I asked questions. I did and I felt like maybe I was overreacting or something. And it was at night because we took him to the hospital at 6, went home at 7, and he was really sick and I stayed up with him all night. But then about 6 o'clock in the morning, I had been taking care of him with the closet light. And he had a dirty diaper, so I turned on the big light to change him and I noticed on his arm what looked like a bruise on the inside of his arm.

Just like two spots and it scared me because he'd been throwing up all night and I was having to get him to the trash can to throw up, you know, and it scared me because I thought that maybe I had done that, you know. And I went on to change his diaper and I opened his diaper and it was all over his body. It's bruising. It looked like... So you rushed him back to the hospital? Right, I started hollering for my sister then and she came in and I said we've got to take him back right now. This was like 6 o'clock in the morning.

And we started back to the same hospital. And I said no, don't take him there because they told me not to, you know, to wait 24 hours to bring him back. And I said let's go to the other hospital. So we went to the other hospital and it was like he was just getting bluer and bluer as we went, you know, and by the time we got there it took off the walk from the car inside the emergency room, realizing how much he was getting sicker by the minute, you know, it was getting more serious by the minute. And my sister dropped me off to go get my mom and they came out, they wanted to just final tab and do all these things and normally I'd ask a lot of questions but I could see that you know that how much time was answered you know so I just found the things and they did it and it was within an hour that they had done everything for them that they could and we had to be airlifted to Fort Worth and at the same time when I tried to call him on, they said that they had his cousin at the other hospital.

Well, I tried to call him, they put me on hold, so I told the nurses, so they got in contact with the other hospital, and she got the testing, and she had it too. The same thing. Did they tell you what it was at this point in time? No. We thought that it might be spinal meningitis, which we were real afraid about because I had heard of it before, and it's supposed to be really bad. But you never heard of the settlement? Never. So how much longer did it take?

Did you airlift your son to the next hospital? Did he arrive there okay? Or how long did it take before he passed away? Well, it was the next day he passed away, but never did I think he was sick enough. I mean, he was a very healthy child. Never did I think that he was sick enough. Did they ever tell you how he got it? Never. They never told you, but his cousin had it also. And they treated his cousin. How's your cousin doing? She's home now. She's not walking yet or anything. And it's horrible. I mean, it's, he looks like he's been beat with a baseball bat. And had he lived, he probably would have lost his arms and legs and he would have been blind and deaf. Part of the reason why I know that you two, the two of you that come on the show is to try to help other young mothers.

The question that I have and this is a question for a lot of young parents, I have two very small children at home. I would have done the same thing you did. The doctor said oh it's okay don't worry about it, take them back home, give them time along with the nurse, bring the fever down. Is there anything you could have done or are you thinking now looking back in hindsight that you could have said, that you would have said to her, forget what the doctor said, let's go to another hospital. What could you do to possibly change the outcome? I think the best thing I can do is to try to help other young mothers.

I think the best thing I can do is to try to help other young mothers. I think the best thing I can do is to try to help other young mothers. I think the best thing I can do is to try to help other young mothers. I think the best thing I can do is to try to help other young mothers. I think the best thing I can do is to try to help other young mothers. I think the best thing I can do is to try to help other young mothers. I think the best thing I can do is to try to help other young mothers. I think the best thing I can do is to try to help other young mothers. I think the best thing I can do is to try to help other young mothers. you would have said to her to get with the doctors and go to another hospital, what would you do to possibly change the outcome?

Nothing. Do they tell you anything about where he possibly got this from? At first they weren't telling us very much. The first thing I heard was that he could have climbed out of the air, which made no sense to me. I don't understand that at all. But later, more people told us. We get something different from everybody about it. And none of it is very informative. Basically, we've gotten that some people can be carriers and not know it or not have symptoms and that by sneezing, that it's carried in your throat.

So have you now at least going back to the hospital to try to figure out why the doctors couldn't diagnose what the problem was to begin with? No. You haven't been able to do that, and they've given you no answers. No, and like all the other hospitals were wonderful. They were great, the doctors and nurses, if it had ever been any chance for him, you know, they were great. Well, it's called mental clinical meningitis is what it is. It's there, it's out there. I don't know how many of you have ever heard of this before. I have not. I've heard of what you said, spinal meningitis. I've never heard of this before. I think we need to be informed about things like this.

When we come back, we're going to meet a young woman who was pregnant with her fianc?'s baby when he died from the hantavirus. We'll be back right after this. We'll know about it, but I think we all need to know about it. Dr. Fisher, thank you for coming back out again. This is somebody in our set. I've never heard of meningococcal meningitis in my life. My son had a 103.5 degree temperature and I was at home, I called the doctor, the pediatrician, who sees him every other week and he said, oh don't worry about it, I'll put him in a bath tub, bring his temperature down and if he's not down in 25 minutes, call me back. But I have good personal care, I pay for that. A lot of people can't afford this, they don't know what to do.

What do you say about this, Dr. Shepard? First I want to just mention what the meningococcal bacteria is so people here can recognize it. That's the most important thing is as you did, you did the right thing with your child. When you recognize a child is sick, you've got to get them to a doctor and they'll mention it's got to be a good doctor. Meningitis itself can be caused by a virus or by a bacterium. And when we say spinal meningitis, usually people mean it's caused by the bacteria. Meningitis is an infection of the fluid around the brain. With adults it's easier to recognize. People have fevers, they may complain of a headache, of a stiff neck, of light hurting your eyes. It's much harder with a child. Your child couldn't complain to you and tell you what was going on. Babies may have high fevers, they may have vomiting. A clear way of recognizing this type of bacterial infection is when there is what we call fatigue, a little black and blue spot that starts to spread on the skin. And it's very important that if a baby is taken to a hospital, they be checked, their skin be checked.

Doctor, listen to me. All of you doctors know this stuff. Put it in a newspaper tomorrow. Say, there is a virus. If you have a guess, look for spots. I am a pretty well-read person. I have never seen anywhere that says when your baby has a high fever, look to see if there are spots on the body. Has anybody ever read that anywhere? You've got to give a thought.

Well, first of all, I agree. I think people have to know, the public has to know. The public can't know everything because there aren't enough years to teach everybody everything. Mothers, fathers should know. High fever, you were right, 105 is too high. You don't have to know what's the cause of the meningitis or the infection, but a good pediatrician would have known 105 is too high. Now, there are books and people should buy them. There are Merck manuals and other books, you know, family medicine manuals. Merck manual is one and there are other manuals that families can look at and you can look up a symptom or a sign and say, hey, I think this is what's going on. The most important thing though, you can't fault yourself for not knowing this is what was going on.

People can say, I have meningococcal meningitis, but they should know that their doctor is a good one. Now, I know money is an issue, you mentioned that, and that's true. Not everyone can afford a private physician. What I had mentioned earlier when we were chatting is that if you can't afford a private doctor, then get into a good clinic. How do you know what a good clinic is? I'm a snob. I think someone should go to the nearest medical center that's associated with the med school.

There are some around. They have clinics. They're affordable. Some take Medicaid, they take other insurance. Hold on there, we're gonna get back to that a little later on in the show. But I just wanna clear up what this was and I think one of the things, are you looking for high temperature? Are you looking for spots on the body?

High fever, spots on the body. If the child is old enough to say, I have a headache or vomiting, or if they close their eyes when they look at the light, that's a sign. Sometimes you can test the neck of the baby, or of a child, or of an adult. It's diagnosed early on, it is treatable, but unfortunately, your doctors didn't tell you to stay then. Be forceful. You did the right thing. You had no way of being more forceful. But if you know your child is sick, say, I want the child evaluated by someone else. I want to take my family to church. Please welcome Sharika and Joanne to the show.

Welcome them to the show. Sharika, fianc? of Barad died from the hemp virus. Sharika, what happened? What went on with your fianc?? I'm sorry. Um... Oh. Thank you.





