990425-1b

6-25-24
Paul

HATONN AT HIS BEST – “SO SOME OF YOU ARE RIGHT HERE AT YOUR GRADUATION.  TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PHASE.  WILL WE GET IT DONE?  YOU’RE CONFOUNDED RIGHT, WE WILL GET IT DONE!”

[Hatonn] I will get rid of the dark energies, and we'll see who's left.  Because when a dark energy settles in, and I say, “get out!”...and I will light this room if I have to, and I have done it....

[EJ, laughing] Do it again..

[Hatonn] But ah, the dark energy only has to move to wherever I tell it to.  It'll back off as far as I demand.  But it will take its receiver every time it can.  And if you don't have the strength of the relationship that you obviously have with God, substantial enough, you'll get flipped off, and you'll go.  And you'll slam the door, and you'll mumble under your breath, “screw you”, and all these wonderful little things.  I'll show you.  That's the big one.  I'll fix you.  Surely you're smart enough to know you don't want me for an enemy.  Well, aren't they smart enough to know they don't want me for an enemy?  I haven’t lost a round yet.

I have the advantage.  They have the handicap.  I just.. I'm sorry, it's that way.  And I can get rid of the energy that's supporting them.  And if you think those energies won't dump you like a hot potato, guess again.  So, Dharma will say, “oh, well, we shouldn't have gone away so long, because people need the support”.  There are people who have never laid eyes on Dharma, who have never wavered in the support.  You didn't come here for Doris or Dharma.  You certainly did not come here for Ed Young, because he was bored too much to even come to the meetings on time.

So don't tell me that any of you came here to experience the energy, astral, or etheric form of Ed Young.  So the confusion comes up.  I must make choices.  I must make choices.  Yes, you must.  But decide on what you're choosing.  Well, I don't know if Dharma's Hatonn is the right one. Will the real Hatonn really stand up?  Would you recognize him if he did? If you think he's somebody else?  

But my travels are grossly exaggerated.  And think back, and enjoy yourself.  Have some humor.  George Green is going to run off with what? The paper... And then he announced he had Commander in tow.  Commander was no longer in Tehachapi, he had gone to Nevada with George, and Desiree.  Aren’t you experiencing deja vu all over again?  Well, how do I prove that I am the one?   I don't have to prove anything to anybody.

Somebody better start trying to prove something to me, and let's start right now with how many meetings did Hatonn have with you, with Dr. Young?  I thought not.  How many meetings did Nori have?  Or did Callie rush over here to have a meeting for you?  What is this?  What is the confusion?  You don't know.  I really kind of... and one or two of them were vacillating about showing up in here.. to show me.  Oh, I just... come on, come on Ricky, come on.  Just come in here.  

I will demand their energy show up.  And don't think that every experience you have, is not a lesson in training.  Before Dharma was even really receiving from me, she knew it was me, and she knew who it was, but she had to lay down on the couch, and put on her blindfold, and do all this stuff that... because nobody said what you're supposed to do. Just a minute, just a minute.  And (unintelligible name) the only speaker on Earth for the silver ray, and Virginia Essenes, who spoke for the golden ray, the Christ ray.  Well, who are they?  

Oh, I thought you'd never ask me, dear.  The silver ray is the ray of creation, the silver cord, the grandfather, if you will.  In the native tongue, or the native language.  This is grandfather.  Then over here you have the golden ray, only they're all wound up like a DNA structure.  If you can picture a DNA spiral, it is interwoven with the silver, and the gold, and becomes crystal light.  So we can have a lesson here on the harmonics of light, but I'll spare you.  

Oh my...There had been a real confrontation in the morning.  There were guests in Ekkers' home, and they were handing out orders like...this one may not be in the room, and that one may not be in the room, and so forth, and so on, and we expect to use the front room, and we'll let so, and so in.  But they wouldn't let Dharma in.  

So after the meeting... and they're ready to go, we're going to have a little meeting.. And you’re gonna put Hatonn in his place.  And so Ann gets herself all into a nice trance, that was such a pretend farce, that you wanted to throw up.  And they go through all their rituals, and poor Virginia didn't know what had hit her.  

And finally Virginia speaks up, and said, “how can you be harsh?  Don't you understand that this is the only earth speaker for the silver ray?"  And I said, um, “I understand that you think so, but I don't acknowledge it, and I don't believe so.  So let's just start from there.  Get your energy here now”.  Oh, my energy is... my speaker is here.  No, he's not.  I said, get him!

And then it's a lot more fun for Dharma to tell the story, because she would crawl under the couch if she'd fit.  And Grandfather, with all the feathered robes, just floated, walked, right over the couch. And got between Anne, and her.  “And he said, now let's talk about it.  Your energy is not here. You are not going to continue with this train of demand”.   And we headed out.  And as usual, as usual, up she got, and away she went.

And Virginia was with her, so she says, oh, well, ahem.  And Anne, in the garage, made Virginia make a choice.  If you stay in this house, if you do not live with me now, our relationship is over. Well, Dharma and EJ didn't know they had this relationship, but I thought maybe it's time we open eyes.  So then they had to think, oh my goodness, silver ray had done a magnificent reading that has all come to pass in this valley. Right to that piece of property.  

Well, but that seems so real.  It is real, don't you understand me?  And when you have heard the prophecies, they're up here.  There is nothing remarkable about a speaker, and a receiver, but the listener has to hear something.  And if you've listened to your lessons, you will know it does not mean you have to judge anybody, but confront these people, and they will run.  So I know how to do it.  
10:10

Well, that isn't very nice.  You always knew, sir, where to pick on Rick. Little Rick?  Come on.  These people will say that doesn't dignify an answer, and go.  If it is right, it dignifies itself by answering.  Don't give me that, “oh, I wouldn't even dignify that with a response”.  That means you're a lying SOB.  And how long will you not allow the dignity, and the respect, and the reverence for God, and the host, because you wouldn't dignify with an answer.  

So we've had several years to graduate these people, and you. Your diplomas are ready.  Isn't that amazing?  All these others think they're running around with their graduation papers in hand?  No, you're the one graduating.  They're just boycotting the graduation.  That's what the Khazarians do.  Anybody notice a similarity?  

Do you know when I lost Rick?  I told him he had Jewish blood. On this trip. I said, watch it, Rick.  He was like a little old lady, who has a shopping addiction.  He could not go across the street to the mall, without going shopping, and dickering over price, and everything, and it was serious, it was being discussed amongst other people.  You might as well have brought, quote, a Jew in here.  Well, he's a Jew.  

You cannot help being what you are, but you can help acting like the more undesirable characteristics involved.  And I handled it very gently, but it was getting out of hand, and this is, after all, my program.  I'm not going to let it be botched by a set of hard metal rock computer speakers.  
He bought two or three sets of them to go with his computer.  And I said, we have to go very carefully here.  Please, let’s go very carefully here, because these are the observations being made.

If anybody would ask at the table, “what do you do, Charles”?  Well, he would respond with, “I pay the bills”.  I guess that means you take your card, and you go over, and you run it through, because EJ was paying the bills.  Well, Rick froze.  He started to respond by... and then he finally did say... well, I mean, he's, he's crimson, he's so angry.  And he said, “no, we had that checked out thoroughly”.  Why would you have it checked out?  What is this?  That's about what I said to him. What is this?  You are what you are.  We are what we are.  

It's really interesting how each race will covet another. If you're black, you want to be white.  If you're white, you go lay in the sun until you cook.  And you go to the Philippines, they're bleaching their face.  It's..it’s insane, is what it is.  You are what you are.  And all that is reflected there, with this thing that you call house, this form. It is not you!  So what are you?  Oh, we're soul, and we're essence, and we're vapor, and we're astral, and we're etheric, and we're all these things.  Yes, you are!  All of these things.  And you can't change what you are.  Only your response, and your reaction to the circumstances.  

But that's when the cord was cut.  Do we want someone?  Actually, it gets a little worse than that.  One of the people that we're working with over there is Jewish.  Goes right to the synagogue over there.  He and Don Rhodes, who is also Jewish, got along extremely well, and they even went to the synagogue once.  Together.  Don didn't make many bones about it.  He was really quite impressed that he got to be 53...he's the oldest known bar mitzvah child, or celebration, or celebrant, something like that.  He wanted to say that he was Jewish by choice.  Well, but his family's Jewish, I guess.  Does it matter?  Can't people work, and be what they are, because they're productive, or talented?

Or do they have to come forth with an almost genetic trace of the tribe?  It's only learned behavior.  Can't you have respect?  Can't you have reverence for that which makes life so incredibly wonderful?  The diversity.  But these are the ways you find, truly, the bigots.  And I want to know what you can do about it.  Dharma could go lay in the sun for fourteen days, and cook, and she'd just freckle, and turn red.  She would not become bronze, and beautiful.  We're going to outgrow that. 

You.  You.  The Y-O-U of you, is light.  And that means you are a compiling... a compilation of every color there is in the universe.  And you're made up of the elements of the universe.  To be the servant of the soul.  You are a spiritual being, and you've chosen to have a physical experience, as human.  Why human?  Why didn't you come back as a dog or a cat?   Because the human is the Creation’s gift with reason.  The ability to think, to reason, and to choose, free will choice.   And because you are human, you have the right to be equal to any other human.

And when you take your responsibility for that which you are created to be, you become a human being co-creator.  That's what you're all working for.  I don't care which direction you're scattering.  The one sole driving purpose of HUman is to reunite with that which he is.  And you will search, and you will seek, and you will come back, and come back, and come back, until you get it done.  So some of you are right here at your graduation.  To move on to the next phase, will we get it done? You’re confounded right, we will get it done!  And yes, most will come back, and want to tag along.

20:18

No tagging along.  You may serve with us, through us, we may help you, whatever they want we may supply.  But no tagging along.  No riding on someone else's coattails to victory.  But you'll have what you need. Thank you for just being honest enough to say, we’ll buy it.  This is a great equalizer, too, when you have something you can call currency or value.  That's something that human understands.  You must have the ability of independent survival, capability, availability.  That means you don't rush to a town to live off someone else.

You come to a town being prepared to build.  That's what usually happens with the commune.  Everybody tosses in their money, and pretty soon you're all fighting.  You have to be self-sustaining, or you drain from someone else.  But these are simply experiences.  Could we make it through without literally being labeled, and proven to be some kind of a cult?  

It's very hard because you don't know what to call a group, except a group.  But the minute you call yourself a group, uh-oh, on TV they're going to call you a cult.  And then when you go, and deliberately set yourself up as the guru, the astral etheric authority that can edit, edit the very speakings, you've just formed a cult.

I don't want to be part of it.  I don't want it anywhere around me.  And most of you have experienced over these years, and certainly Ekkers have, they don't want ‘em around them either. They’re sick to death of courtrooms, and ridicule, and being threatened to throw you in jail, the day they burn Waco.  The day they burn Waco!  How dare they come out here and tell Ray Bilger or Ray Bilger tells other people, rides to Bob Nakaya, don't go out to that farm!  That's why I moved.  They have an arsenal out there.  They have guns out there and they expect another Waco out there. Bob Nakaya got this from Al.  Al called him.  This is unacceptable.  

[EJ] Is this a recent occurrence?

[Hatonn] Yes. Yes. 

[Unknown audience member] Did you get it from Al or from Ray? 

[EJ] Ray and Al? 

[Hatonn] Both. 

[EJ] Who's Bob Nakaya? 

[Hatonn] He was here yesterday with Maggie and Les Zobel.  He's Les' wife's son.  He wants to do the farm.  He is a landscape architect.  He wants to manage the farm.  He doesn't necessarily need to live it. You've got so many wonderful things to experience.

Spelt is only one product.  There is now a recognized product in the United States of America, and now being grown commercially in the Philippines, is, it is, is a hibiscus plant-like.  But it can be treated also as a very fibrous plant, annual.  And it makes the best paper, the best fiber products.  It can be baled into cubes for cattle feed.  It is one of the most versatile, useful plants since hemp.  But you can't have hemp.  So we need to experiment with some of these things.  We need the research, and educational development that the Institute offered, but we don't need the Institute to do that.  And you don't want to be under constant assault, everything you do.

But don't tell me, you love me, while you're cutting my people's throat. But you see, they already had done it.  They had severed Hatonn.  But they don't just sever, so let's think about that again for a minute.  You might say, God damn... are you cursing?  Are you taking the name of God in vain?  Depends on how you intended it.  Mostly, it is a, God damn it. So it doesn't mean anything.  Taking God in vain is doing what they’re doing.  You see, my higher form is Aton, the Light.  And I play around wherever I want to.  Everybody wants clues.

Let me give you a big one, that so far I haven't noticed anyone noticing. Do you really think God would choose one people over another people? This reminds me of war.  God's on our side.  We only lost three people. They lost five.  What in the world is this?  I'm going to go on the football field now, and bloody everybody on the other side.  I'm going to pray first, and ask God to let me win. Win, win.

Why don't you just pray to be honorable?  And stop this.  This incredible nonsense.  And stop thinking of yourself all the time.  I just don't know.  What about me?  I just don't know my relationship with, with this. Uh, well, I just don't know.. um.. well what happens to me now?  Who the hell cares?!!  Well I care, that's why I'm asking you what's going to happen to me now.  Well, why don't you wonder what's going to happen to Bruce or Valerie, or Audrey, or you name it.  Why are you hung up on self, and feel abused?  You are given the greatest gift on earth today.  And you're going to be given the abundance to go with it.

And you're going to piss, and moan.  And you're going to piss, and moan until they hang you with the golden rope, and then you'll complain about that, too.  I don't mind complaints.  I don't mind a little bit of confusion, or talking about it, but for goodness sake, get your brain together.  

You're not confused.  You don't want to give up this relationship, or that relationship.  And they think, and they say... who cares what they say?  Well, can all the world be out of step?  Yeah.  In fact it’s easier to get everybody out of step, marching along to the drum beat.  That takes nothing, and I'm sorry to go, and commit suicide, or be martyred, is nothing that is a cop-out.  That is just a cheap way to get out of it.  

Only you don’t get out of it.  You meet it squarely on the other side of that veil.  Where you wish you hadn't done it.  Because of the responsibility that goes with it.  It's murder, and thou shalt not kill. You're not supposed to kill little unborn babies, and you're not supposed to commit suicide.  But don't you understand that it's all right if you do?

You just have consequences for your actions.  It isn't a solution.  It's a very selfish way to go.  Because obviously you're only thinking of self, in the relief of whatever pain you're having, or I'll just blow my brains out, and get it all over with.

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Will you really?  Not only will you not get it over with, but there are special places, even in the astral plane, where these energies go who make that terrible choice, because they cannot justify to the life.  And they will isolate themselves even in the etheric form.  So there are guides that specialize in tending these souls.  

Then there are the commitments, or the contracts, that take ones to allow for something else to happen, that impacts what is left.  You don't know another's contract. You don't but what the gift of a Charles Neal, and a Rick Martin, and a Gail Irwin might be.  So you graciously, on your knees, thank them for the gift they've given you.

So that you can make your choice, and grow into the realization it was the right one.  And Dharma says, “well, maybe if you do come through with, you know, the wherewithal to do this”.  This comes from ten, twelve, fifteen, twenty years of patience.  

Ed Young, like I said yesterday, gave me ten days.  And therefore, I knew it would take eleven or twelve, before we could do anything.  Don't give God ultimatums.  And don't make promises that you know fully well, you probably won't keep if it works out.  If God keeps his bargain, it's all right because you have right up to the 11th hour to say, well, I really didn’t mean to betray you.  These people have not betrayed you.  They betrayed themselves.  

They have not hurt you.  You have gained.  You will grow.  It doesn't matter whether you have a paper, or you don't have a paper.  But we will have a paper.  Bruce wants a paper.  We need a paper.  We need to communicate, and we need to get the prophecies out, if nothing else.  But that's only part of what needs to be done.  Why shouldn't we all experience success?  Do something worthy of God's pride in us.  And it takes a lot.

And therefore you will create a way, and you will have a lot.  And will we lose some others?  Will some of you?... Dharma will vacillate from day to day.  Jeez, I must be as bad as they say, or at least partially that bad.  How could I have misled people?  Misled?  What have you misled?  People are not supposed to have a ring in their nose, with a string.  How smug, and arrogant of you to think you might have led somebody astray.  

Does everybody in this room hear me now when I say you're arrogant to think that?  And you’re not going to tell me how to spend my money, is what came back.  Just don't try to tell me how I'm going to spend my money.  Your money?  Is it more Rick's money, than anyone in the room?
It's just money.  

And to use it incorrectly in a time of gross trouble on a planet, if all you're going to do is support a hard rock metal group, I'd rather you starve.  It comes on the stage like this.  And all those teenagers are out there in the audience, you know, giving it this.  Is that what you want your children to be?  Satan's goats?  Well, of course you don't.  Of course you don't.  

Well, let's put our funds, and our abundance into something worthwhile.  Let's build a brotherhood, a global brotherhood for humanity, so that it can once, once in its full existence, hold its head proud before Creator.  
I intend to do it, and together we're going to get it done.  And we're going to love every minute of it.  

Let's go home.  Any questions?  I would have questions.  

[Wally] Is there anything we should be doing that should be talked about?  So we know what we should be doing. Or we should be still waiting, or thinking...

[Hatonn] You're still waiting until we can begin to have things happen. But be thinking.  Yes, indeed, be thinking.  

[Wally] I'm going to go.  Let me have some more.  I mean.  I guess this is probably the hardest thing for me to really believe that, that after fifty nine, almost sixty years of dreaming, that actually to be able to really start moving without limits, and I guess that was one thing that, that prior to the beginning of this meeting yesterday, I just wanted to come with out expectations, and without any limitations, because I felt with my heart, and being, and soul that the work that you guys had been doing for this last bit of time, was going to be that fundamental accomplishment that will actually transform the people of this world, and this world itself from darkness into light, from hate to love, and from death to immortality.  And to be a living human being, to be aware that I'm living, and that nothing surpasses this life, and that life is God, and that God breathes in and out, and I breathe in and out, and I'm One with my Father.

I can't, with words, adequately express the gratitude, and the appreciation that I feel for the experience of life that's been given to me, and I must say, with at least what I've done with the experience of my life, up until this point.  It's immensely satisfying, and gratifying to be here, and I'm just so grateful to be here. Thank you. 

[Hatonn] Well, we're grateful to have you here.  And you're not alone.  You are not alone.  And it's coming together now, all over the globe.  Pods here, pods there.  And the elite know.  Their time is limited, and they're trying to make their own decisions about how they handle things.  They're not denying what we have.

They would rather it work out a little bit better for them.  And we don't mind working it out better for them.  We really don't mind working it out better for them!  You don't want a collapse!  You want to grow, and build.  They will fall of their own volition.  We're not at war, and we must get rid of that concept.  And yes, we will do it.  And we do have to have the spiritual strength to do it.  On the other hand, don't become filled with spiritualism.  That immobilizes you also, because you become some pious do-nothing.  

Be yourself!  Be strong!  Be what God has endowed you to be!  And I wonder if you're ready to hear it.  Equal!  I finally heard EJ say something to these women.  They're there, and they are powerful people.  They know everybody who's anybody.  And they're now getting so humble, and they want this, and they want this, and oh... our father been sent... and they're practically going to lollygag on the floor.  While he gags.  Stop this!  Shut up!  You know, eye to eye now.  No more of this father crap.  It’s your, and it’s me.  And our father, our father...

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