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Paul

CONTINUED - FORMER DENTIST RON CARLSON DETAILS HIS EXPERIENCES IN HEROICALLY FIGHTING YOUR BATTLES IN WEAPONIZED COURT SYSTEM AGAINST ILLEGAL MAFIA-STYLE EXTORTIONISTS KNOWN AS IRS.  DISCOVERS WITH FOIA DEMAND THAT THERE ARE OVER 10,000 PAGES IN HIS FEDERAL FILE.  THEY REFUSE TO GIVE HIM 3,000+ PAGES DUE TO ‘NATIONAL SECURITY’.  THAT IS WHEN HE IS INDICTED

[Ron]  I cannot understand the foreign language.  This is a Title IV USC 1 flag, Section 1, and 2.  I am a common law citizen.  I stand in a common law jurisdiction.  I would like to inform the court that there's been a fraud perpetrated upon the court, mail fraud, and extortion, by the Internal Revenue Service.  

I should... did this... I held it out in front of my hand, and shook the paper.  The judge then put his hands in like this, you know, hands in the... head in hands, and he just kind of like, went like that, saying - you fool.  He didn't say it, but that's what I'm sure... it looked that way.  He then said, he was standing there... or no... he's sitting, and he turned to the prosecutor, and he said, Mr. Kawakami, I think it was - the respondent has not responded.  Go get him, no bail.  

And at that point, Melissa then later related, and so did Paul, that the bailiff was going to grab me from behind.  And the judge then interrupted the bailiff that was going to grab me, and said, no, not here, out there...pointing out the door.  I didn't... I was standing there, waiting for the ceiling to fall, right?  

Then the prosecutor picked up his books, and started to walk out.  The clerk of the court called the next case, and I kind of looked around, and I said, I guess it's over, I won.  Well, for that moment I did, and I did walk out of court.  So that's why I say, it does work.  If you do not join under 12-B7, Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, you can... he cannot do anything.

Now he had to though, then, what he then did, and I found this out on Friday night at 5 o'clock, he issued an arrest warrant for me.  So immediately Melissa, and I, we went back to our office, and I typed up a 42 action, you know, mailers technology.  We spent about 18 hours in my office typing this up.  We filed it the next morning.  I don't know if that was a wise idea either.  You know, these are things that you do in haste, and I think it was really foolhardy on my part to maybe do that.  I don't know.  But I'll find out, won’t I?  

So the upshot was that on Friday night, which is the day after Thursday, the hearing I was at was an arraignment, and plea.  I didn't know it was an arraignment, and plea.  So Friday night I had gone home, and I had just driven my car up into our parking area, and then all of a sudden the van came up, and I heard two guys get out of the car, and say, “Ron? Ron? Is that you, Ron?", and I said, yeah.  They said, put your hands up, you're under arrest.  And then I came out of the car, and they pulled their guns, and they did the whole thing, and put me in the back.  

That's when it gets real real.  I mean, it is real real anyway, I'm saying.  But it's like all of a sudden, that's where the rubber hits the road, right?  The irons go on, and you have that experience of.. that sinking feeling where everything leaves your body like - oh man, I'm in trouble.  You know, like when you were a kid, and you got caught doing something by Mom.  So all that stuff came up as I was riding to Halawa Prison.  

But talk about miracles upon miracles, this is the events that occurred that weekend.  If I could be, I'll try to be as brief as I can.  

[EJ]  Take your time.  We're enjoying it.  

[Ron]  Good, if it's beneficial for people to stay away from this...it's very beneficial to stay away from this.  But I would have to put a caveat with that, because there may be a time when it would be appropriate.  I don't know.  I mean, don't... it's just that when you're... The federal government really is powerful, and they do it the way they're going to do it.  And they're going to take it the way they're going to take it.  So I was taken to Halawa Hilton, or the prison, Halawa Prison.  I was...  actually the two US Marshals were quite nice.

I didn't resist.  I stopped playing... excuse me, I stopped playing resisting.  I just let... I trusted God.  I just said, this is what happened.  You are responsible.  And one thing about Miller, if I can acknowledge, is that he says you have to be responsible, and being responsible.  He said if you try this stuff, you are responsible.  He said I'm telling you what can be done, what's available, but don't come back, and say I did it to you, or be a victim.  I wouldn't do that.  I did do that, but there's some...you have to be careful with it because it will really whack you if you don't... if you do it the way I did it.

I went to... that evening, probably about 6 o'clock, I ended up in the Halawa prison.  They take you in, and they induct you into the, they bring you into the prison into a holding area, and you're handcuffed, and they take the handcuffs off.  They then do a strip search, and they give you your stuff, and they take your clothes, and things like that.  

Well, it just so happened that the guy that...and they take your fingerprints, and a photograph, not for the purposes of the yearbook, though.  This is a different purpose.  Maybe it is a yearbook, I don't know.  Eventually.  They then give you your prison garb, which has been worn, and just briefly washed by other people.  I mean, it's really, you get nothing.  I mean, it's just really bare.  It's a real wake-up call in terms of what's possible in the other side of this thing we call freedom, and liberty in our life.  

And that's another part of it I can share maybe later.  The value that I know that I live now, the fact that I'm able to be here even, is a gift from God.  I mean, everything is a gift, but it really gets real.  The person that was taking my fingerprints, and my photograph, I didn't recognize him at the time, but he came later, and he said, don't you live across on Ferdinand Street?  And I said, yeah.  He said, well, I'm the guy that brought you your cellular phone the other night, up at your house at 12 o'clock.

I looked at him, and I said, oh, you're Dominic.  He said, yeah.  He said...because what had happened, one, or two days before the event of the arrest, I had been up with Paul, and Melissa, and Paul had left a cell phone on the top of his car, and Dominic had come home from the prison, and seen the cell phone, and brought it up to my house.  So here this guy was like an angel from heaven, and he was very gentle to me, and he was a nice local guy, and he said, can I call your wife?  Because I'd asked if I could call my wife to tell her where I was.  I didn't know where...  She probably knew where I was if I didn't come home.

So he said, yeah, and he did.  He called.  So that's the first experience.  It was like, what is the probability of having somebody who lives right across from you, parked his car every day in front of the new house you just moved in, showing up, and being the person that greets you at the prison. I mean, I was blown away.  I just absolutely was, I was like, wow, God, you really know how to do these things.

[laughter]

But that, and that, that was, okay, then I, then I walked in, and before you go into the cell block... this is a state prison, Halawa, and they have a federal section.  It's called Block B, and we wear blue, and the other people wear green.  So I was given a blue suit, and I'm walking in, not to sell Block B, but I have to first go to the health center.  And they have to check you out to make sure that you're healthy, and they do some things.  

So I have this conversation with a nurse, and they check my blood pressure, pulse, and stuff like that.  They ask me some questions about drugs, and things like that.  I don't take anything.  I don't drink anymore.  I don't smoke anymore, I don't take any medicines.  I'm a dental surgeon, and I know the value of not taking medicines.  Stay away from them, unless you absolutely need them.  She then said, well, I'm now going to take a blood sample.  I want to see if you have TB.

Well, I know that what they do is they prick you with the toxoid of tuberculinem, or an attenuated, they call it attenuated, is a euphemism for killed tuberculous bacteria, and they prick your skin, and then they see if you have a cell reaction.  You know, swelling, and a histamine reaction they call it, and I said, no, I can't do that.  She said, well, why?  And I explained that this is a toxic material, and I don't want it in my body.  I said, I can't allow that to be done.  

She said, we have to, we can't let you go into the cell block.  I said, well, I apologize, but I can't take that.  So the nurse got a little bit upset with me, and then she called another person who is the administrator, or the registered nurse on duty, and this nice lady, mid-50s, walked in, nice white hair, very pleasant face, sat down, and started talking to me.  She said, well, what's the problem?, and I said, you know, I just do not want to have a cell.  She said, well, we could.  

I told her I'm a dental surgeon.  She said, oh yeah, and where did you go to school?  I said, University of Michigan.  She said - oh, my uncle, Dr. Bonnett, used to teach there.  Do you know him?  And I said, yeah, he was my instructor.  Bang!  Absolute rapport.  I mean, talk about opening gates.  She said, normally we'd have to take you down to take a chest X-ray, but since you're only going to be here until Monday, and I should have listened to that because I did some extra worrying that I didn't need to, she said, we'll forego that, it'll be okay.

[10:04]

So I walked in to cell block B, they gave me some meal.  I walked in, and I met some very fine human beings.  I was also very much impressed.  They had... they're young people, virtually everybody there was for drugs, conspiracy to distribute drugs, but basically conspiracy.  Young guys, you know, 19, 20, 21, 25, that just happened to be in the car with a guy that was transporting drugs, and got stopped.  There were some of them... at least that's what they told me, I don't know. But I went into a cell block, and I was with a guy by the name of Aki, who's Hawaiian, and another guy who is Hawaiian-Filipino.  I mean, really good human beings, educated, but one had broken a parole violation.  

So there were two in a cell that night, so I had to sleep on the floor on a mat.  So that was a good experience too.  I mean, I had never slept in a prison on the floor.  That's very humbling.  I was thankful.  I was really, I mean thankful in the sense that I was still scared, and all of that stuff's going through you, but I just kept asking that I be connected with God's light.  That the Commander was there, that Christ was present, that Germain was present, that all the Ascended Masters, and the Rainbow Master, you know, everything.  So I felt bathed in this light, and I slept well.

Got up the next day, and then another, the third miracle, there are a lot of miracles, but this is the third one that occurred that morning, is Aki knew who I was, and I had done this technology about the jurisdictional issue.  Because, you know the Hawaiian Islands have been illegally taken by the federal government, right?  We know that because if you go back to the contract, it will also explain the illegal taking, and Senate Resolution 19 that attests to the fact, in 1993, that it was illegally taken.  So there is this big division among what they call Hawaiian sovereignty, and I'm a sovereignty in a sense, but I'm also part of that community, so I feel sovereign also.

And I support those issues, but not overthrow, or not violence, or things like that.  So there's one key person in the Hawaiian sovereignty movement that I've wanted to meet for many, many years, and his name was Bumpy Kanaheli.  And he's like a magnet in the Hawaiian community, and he was in prison.  So Aki took me to Bumpy, and Bumpy's this huge Hawaiian guy, you know, a pockmarked face, but he's got this softness inside him.  He's a very spiritual man, and he found out who I was, and what I did, and he shook his head, he said – you fool…. I knew it was coming out of his brain, you fool... dumb Howlies...  Howlie is a name for a Caucasian in Hawaii.  Just means a newcomer, but he didn't do it derogatorily.

So we had a good conversation that morning.  He asked me to write out everything that had happened.  So he said to me, he said, don't worry, you're taken care of.  Because you come into a prison where there's no white people.  You know, and you're... that still is there.  That racial...  it's not black-white, it's just you've got this white skin, and that's different for them.  And you're also a different cut.  You're not in for drugs, you're in for income tax evasion, maybe.  Alleged income tax evasion.

So Bumpy, then, we talked that weekend.  He told me certain things, and he said, even if you do go to the federal prison on the mainland, we'll make sure you're taken care of.  Because in the community, you have to have people, there's kind of like protection, right?  So, I just felt really taken care of.  And not just because of Bumpy, but because I had met some other people there that you could talk to, and they'd relate their stories to you, and you could find out it was on...you know, it just seemed so inappropriate, at least at that point.

Well, Monday morning I was allowed to go before the judge again, and express my humility, and apology to the court.  Oh, the fourth miracle was, the day that I had my arraignment, and plea on the 19th... go back three, four days... I had seen on the docket the name of an attorney that I knew that was a patient of mine for 20 years.  And for some reason when I read that I said, I probably will...It came to me, not words, but it's like... I flipped over through the court case, and I saw his name come up, and I said, I could always call Ross.. this guy.  Because he knows me, but he didn't know I was involved with these things, right?

Well, that's who I called on Saturday when I was in prison.  I called Paul, and told him to get hold of this attorney who's been a long-time patient - friend of mine.  Art called me on Sunday, and told me what we're going to do.  And so then I came in on Monday morning, and they put you in a holding block until you're called.  I wasn't called until Monday afternoon.  And also at that point you are guilty until proven innocent in our court system, period.  

So there's a pretrial phenomenon where you have to sign documents.  Pre-trial means that you now are under the control of the United States District Court.  You surrender your, not Social Security, I wish you could, you surrender your passport.  I signed a $50,000 signature bond, did the fingerprint, you know, just said I signed everything.  As a matter of fact, at one point while I was doing this, before I was heard, the court wanted all the stuff taken care of that I was going to comply with, that I come under their jurisdiction.  They wanted me to come under their jurisdiction.

And the only way I could do it was sign all these agreements.  I didn't even write under coercion, or under UCC 1-207.  I didn't mess with that.  Yeah, I just signed a darned thing.  And then what really surprised me, this young lady who was the person from the pretrial service... I signed those, she left, she came back, she wanted to talk to me again.  We had a sidebar, and she asked me, what is this Phoenix Project Committee of 50 States that you've been involved with?  Like that.  I said, oh, that was a political action group that we disbanded, and we're not active anymore, but we passed the Tenth Amendment resolution, and we've been involved with a number of other activities.  So she said, oh, but the mere fact that she brought that up, I knew the thing was much broader than just simply tax.

It wasn't about 7201.  This goes back a long time.  To finish this story, I then went into court in chains with my attorney.  We pleaded not guilty.  The prosecutor objected to my being released that day, wanted me held at Halawa because I was a flight risk.  My heart dropped down to my toes, because I could imagine sitting in jail, in the Halawa prison for three, or four months before my trial.  You know, you're really hamstrung at that point.

You can't do anything.  But I just said, no, just stay with it, kid. Just have the faith here.  Hang in.  Then Ross argued a couple of things, and then they said, well, we'll have a detention hearing on Wednesday. But they were going to release me that day.  So I was released, and went home, and that's that story.  

Wednesday I went back for the detention hearing, and my attorney didn't say anything.  The prosecuting attorney at that hearing wanted me held at Halawa because I was a flight risk.  And my attorney couldn't even get anything out of his mouth, but the judge came in immediately, and said, no, no, no, the court does not agree with that.  Talking to the United States prosecutor, he's not a flight risk.  He signed all pretrial agreements.  He's a dentist.  He does, he's, you know, he went through all this stuff.  It was like he was going to my bat.  Yeah, he was advocating for me, and my attorney just didn't say anything.  I walked out that day.  So I said, thank you very much again.  And then.. that's basically the story of what happened there.

There's something I was going to mention.  I didn't bring it in, but it may, or may not come.  Well, basically what happened then is that we filed some motions for a bill of particulars, because 7201, the citation 7201 basically says, any person who attempts to evade, or defeat a tax will be guilty of a felony offense da-da-da-da-da.  That's all.  So it's a very nonspecific thing.  

So I began to work, and immediately I contacted Ray, and we had conversations.  Ray came up with this idea that we would do a bill of particulars, which we did, which they dismissed.  They didn't do that.  And we did another motion to suppress, or (unintelligible legal term) they call it, which was some of the invective in the indictment that was.. now we're in the stage of providing the court with a motion to dismiss based upon the memorandum of law, and points of law, points, and authorities that raise technology about the rules, and regulations of the court...not the court, but the federal rules of federal codes of federal regulations.

In other words, each statute has to have rules, and regulations.  These are arguments that are in the community of people that do the things that I do.  It's called the Non-Filing Club.  It has another characterization in the Internal Revenue Service called Tax Protester.  And so we are now going to present...we've presented that motion to dismiss.  We will have a hearing on June 15th, which is Monday.  And at that hearing, who knows, usually they don't dismiss anything, they go to trial.

[20:20]  

But there may be enough information that I'm bringing up in the motion to dismiss, that they feel they wouldn't want to deal with in a court of law, that they may... you can never tell, the DOJ may withdraw it at some point.  The judges I don't think can dismiss it.  I think that they have to have... the DOJ has to dismiss it, or the judge can dismiss it if there wasn't a timely indictment.  At least that's what I've read in the rules.  Go ahead.

[Audience member]  Wasn't there something about Richard Snell that came up?  

[Ron]  Oh yeah, well that was what the Phoenix Project Committee of 50 States was about, because she had mentioned that... didn't you write a letter to President Clinton about Richard Snell?  Or Governor Guy Tucker?  Yeah, it was all from the, I think there was stuff... and then I saw the discovery material, they had all that.  I think there was something else on the Southern Poverty Law Center.  Remember, they characterized the Phoenix Project Committee of 50 States as one of those subversive groups in one of their newsletters.

So it would look like there had been a number of things that I'd been involved with.  Oh, parenthetically, go back about a year when I was informed that I was under possible criminal indictment, I then did a FOIA, a Freedom of Information Act request, for 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, five years.  I had over, what did I say, 10,000 pages on me, in two boxes. They have 10,000 pages, of which they only gave me 7,000 because the rest are, what do they call it?  National security, or something like that.  
I appealed wanting those three thousand.  I even went right up to the Department of Justice, to Janet Reno, and they said no.  Well, that's when I got in, that's when things came down heavy.  So I know that there's a long history of what I've done, and I've really done nothing but stand up for something that I felt is Truly accurate.  That something has to be... that the American people need to know what's going on in government, and who's controlling our government.

Now I don't know if it's the right way I did it, to do that, but at some point it may come out, I don't know.  I feel now just simply as an instrument of Creator God, that I will be used, the way I will be used. I also then have been given the power to create reality that I can then begin to make my best effort to move it to where I think it should move.  

And..which led us to a series of tapes that are really revealing about the income tax, because I have been involved with these conversations for 18 years, and not until four weeks ago, at the request of my wife, Melissa, to order a series of tapes called Just the Facts by a group called Save a Patriot.  And I needed saving big time, I'll tell you.  

Maybe this is grasping for another straw, but I don't think so.  Maybe what I'm saying by grasping for another straw is that tapes aren't going to do it, and nobody else is going to do it.  I'm going to have to stand there, and do it.  I'm going to have to somehow muster the courage, and strength, and power with the grace of God to work with the attorney.  The biggest problem I've had is getting the attorney to align himself with me.  Because he had me guilty.  Yes, Doris?  

[Doris]  We happen to know a real good attorney that's fresh out of a job.  

[Ron]  Well, send him over.  

[Doris]  He'd probably enjoy Hawaii too.

[Ron]  Wow, we'll talk about that.  Because my attorney is very good, but he's seventy...age has nothing to do with it.  He's from New York, he's a bulldog, he's a good attorney, a good man, I like him.  He, though, still has this mentality, and so many years of programming, that I violate...  Well, if everybody did this, we couldn't run the government.  How can you get away paying, not paying your taxes for fourteen years?  I mean, the government would...  That's what he'd say.  And that's what I had to overcome.  I had to keep working with him, and explaining this.  And it takes a lot of energy, and charge to really get that clear, and have him sit with you for a moment to go over some of these things, so he could start to see that it's in law.  

I'm not... this is not... I'm not making this up.  I mean, I've read the codes.  It says right here.  But so, now let's go back to this Save a Patriot group, the Kottmeier tapes, or these tapes by this guy, his name is John Kottmeier, and he's been doing this for 25 years.  I had heard him in 1991 at a seminar in Denver on this subject matter.  

I liked him, and I thought he was saying some really remarkable stuff, but I was way out in Hawaii, and he was in Maryland, and I was working with a group down in Denver already, and I figured well... but I received his tapes at Melissa's request I, ordered them, and it's 12 hours, and I have never seen anybody go through the code section, and teach people, and ask questions about...and have an understanding of the entire title like he did, and I won't go over that... I don't have to, it's very simple once you listen to it, it's not that simple but you have to know where to go to show the law.

I mean, law is law, and law is written.  If it's not written, it's not law.  Case law is not even law.  That's just an opinion.  But we think it's law, so we'll cite it in our rebuttals.  But in Kottmeier’s case, and apparently they're winning cases throughout the country, but you never hear about it.  Yeah, and I don't know what kind of cases are being won.  I don't know.  

But I was just, I thought for, and then when I was coming here with Melissa, we just came from South Dakota that's pretty much underwater. There's a lot of farm fields in South Dakota that are inundated, and the government wants to buy the farmlands.  My point is that coming here, for some reason, I kept thinking about the Constitutional Law Center.  And of course, I've been having a lot of conversations with Ray, and I know that the Law Center is not up, and running in the sense that it's kind of been disbanded.  

And then Commander was mentioning this young man, Rhodes, from Jerry Spence's camp, and I was thinking, wow, maybe not the...  The income tax issue is only...  When people think about income tax, they think about money, and they think about IRS, and they think about, you know, that kind of a thing, and Al Capone, and it brings up a lot of turmoil for people.  But the young people know what this information gathering is.

The IRS is an information gathering, organization, and they will do that, and you file every year information that is actually very private, and is not required.  But the point is that I think there's something here to look at, and to work on in that regard.  I think in the future with a series of tapes that will explain the nature of the income tax, is not for us, it's actually not for United States citizens.  It's for United States citizens residing in foreign countries with foreign earned income.  And it's all laid out in Chapter 3, Subtitle A of the Code.  And there's no place within the Income Tax Code, Subtitle A, that ever talks about a United States citizen, which we all are, that has any withholding upon their income.

But these are things that when you start to read them, you start to cite them, it's like your rights... First off, you're confused, but as you start to work with it, it becomes very clear what happened.  Kottmeier also goes back to 1862, when the first income duty was levied upon the United States.  Prior to 1862, there was no internal revenue.  They did not need internal revenue.  They went directly to the states under Article 1, Section 2, Clause 5, or something like that, where they can go to the states for support.  Maybe it's Article 9.  But the point I'm getting to is that if that is so... there's a great...and I don't know, this is probably not the forum to ever speak about Internal Revenue Service problems, or stuff like that.  

Going back to Miller's case, I would be very cautious with using any of that technology.  I think Commander once said, you know, why don't you set up corporations, and work through those, and then you won't get into these problems.  And if I would have known that probably I would have done that years ago.  

But in 1980 when I had the first confrontation, and then read these things.. in those days, you know, there was not available I don't think, and I wouldn't have known I had enough sense to do that probably anyway at that time.  

So those are the series of events that I've been through, and it does make a person stronger if one is willing to stand with it, to trust in God.  It had to come down to that, because while I was in those walls, and those are very bare-bones experiences, I just simply kept tuning in to God.

[Tape ended abruptly at 29:31]