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Susan
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MEETING TAPE: G.C. Hatonn 

THE ROSE JUST IS, YOU JUST ARE

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I think we can't wait. Let's see. Maybe start with yesterday's writing. I'd like the Pleiades thing too. Be here if he gets here. This is sort of an insignificant place over here you know. I'll go over there because somebody's asked me and I'll go prepared to perform which I certainly hope is among the things he plans to do. This is the way we make it, people. We don’t have any great big show and tell but a lot of things are coming down and you're going to know of our presence and it will be in security. If you can talk on a telephone then you can understand the mechanism that we use and it's that simple. And if you have ever had a dream or you have ever been in semi-conscious state you will understand why I have to put sunglasses on her eyes. The pupils are completely dilated, she is seeing pictures and light hurts the eyes and I need her eyes later to work. So we're not Hollywood here. And that disappoints an awful lot of people because they come for the show. And there ain't no show unless you bring it. Jordan Maxwell has brought us a real show. And when you start integrating the kinds of show that Mr. Gunderson and Mr. Maxwell and when they get together and they merge their material it is going to blow the minds of the people. Because you can't hide from it forever. There is no way to hide from it forever. And I don't have to save anybody. I just have to knock on your brain. So why don't you read yesterday's and that will give us a little bit of time. I want to talk about Pleiades when he gets here. 
[Oberli] Okay. Friday. No this is Saturday, April 7th, 1995. Couldn't be Saturday, April 8th, 1995. 
Well, so she has problems. 
[Oberli] I didn't get it properly corrected. It's my fault. My job. I am pleased to offer you who ask about helping a wonderfully happy task. I have permission of Kathy O'Brien for all who will write and send cards to Kelly to do so. By all the pressure you have brought to bear the system has allowed Kathy to visit Kelly and things are working better. Let me share Kathy's letter of appreciation which is perhaps directed to me simply because there is no way to respond to each of you. Well I believe we have a visitor. But he's going back out. 
Yeah, well I'll go with him. 
[Oberli] Is that the right person? All right. Commander would you like to table this temporarily or shall I proceed? 
Well where are we to?
[Oberli] Just to be? I haven't even started the letter. 
No I’m not talking about the letter. I keep telling you I can see what's going on. She's sitting there with her eyes crimped shut. Just hold it up and just get him in here. If you get here late you’re subject to all sorts of discipline. Get up here. Somebody get him a chair. I want to sit him right up here by her. This is like Jordan, I'm going to go to the corner of the room and try to figure out what I think about this before I have to make a commitment. Nobody makes a commitment. 
[Oberli] Is that close enough?
That's close enough. Maybe. You're going to be very sorry you're late.
[Vladimir] This is the main task of my present lifetime. 
Meet your friend. 
[Oberli] This is the on and off button. 
Well you can't talk yet. I haven't finished. I don't want you to think for even a briefest second that what's sitting in this chair is a nice little lady from Tehachapi. That's what you see. That does not mean that I have vacated her mind and made her some brainless imbecile. It means Vladimir, that I am sick and tired of all the crowd that usually travels with you. She does not have the vaguest idea who you are. So I'm going to tell people in here who he is and she may as well find out. Now I'm going to get a lot of your national places mixed up because I don't go by your space and I don't go by your time. And I'm going to back up a little bit because most of the ones in this room know me. We have one who is a precious friend who is here for the first time, who is a miller. And when I mean miller, I don't mean Mr. Miller, I mean he handles grain. And he will be able to handle our Spelta. Now this isn't going to make any sense to you Vladimir at all right off the bat because everybody around in the highest elitist circles know me but nobody wants to own up to knowing me. I command the Host of God of Light. My name is Gyeorgos Ceres Hatonn, of Aton the one light of the Universal Godhead. I am one who has been sent in preparation for these times. I know about Montauk. I've been there. I know all of your leaders. I've met them. I know all about the brain control plastered on your place. I have met with leaders in Germany. You come from a background near Romania do you not? 
[Vladimir] No a block south from Bulgaria. 
Well I'm close. What are you doing here? Not here. I know you got hornswoggled.
[Vladimir] I have such dreams about extraterrestrials, about anti-gravity, about secret projects around on this planet. 
Why would you have such dreams? Do you believe it? 
[Vladimir] I do. 
Then you won't have any trouble with me. But neither will I play games. When we came here when we came here for this final mission a lot of you were already placed. Your parents were placed. You were making preparation for this involvement. So why would I single out you? You travel in the circles of “the UFO-logists.” You travel in the circles of ones trying to do something with scalar energy. I call that Argon Prana Energy. And I think maybe to let you settle in with the energy of this room because it's not going to make sense to you. I had, yes asked that you bring some things but we are working very diligently now on trying to uncover a lot of the mess of your political circles and the most political and the most damaging is the brain control the mind control that has now taken the world. Let's not even consider that it's a possibility it is done. There will be many pockets of many people and all ones who are attached to the God of Light will have the shelter and they won't be able to program you. Why? Because of the frequency that you carry. And sometimes you artificially carry it because I know the purpose I know the journey and I have the privilege of doing that. Not because I say, eeny, meeny, miny, moe, I’m going to zap you.
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It is because you have committed to a job and it's time to make these other connections just as it was time to meet with Maxwell just as it was time to meet with various and sundry ones who also are part of this mission. You are not really a part of that underground DNA. I don't even know what to call it. It is so immense and it is so debilitating. I had just asked EJ to begin to read. I won't go into the dynamics of this kind of communication. This is not channeling. This is not a JZ Knight with a 64,000 year old alien. I'm going to give you chitter chat master. That does not discount those energy forms but I want you to know that this information comes in on a radio frequency to her receiving system and she's nothing but a translator and she also types. And until it is suitable for a different type of projection which is nothing but a hologram made manifest through thought of God. And it's time you quit creating monsters and start creating goodness, we would be here until night before we ever even got through the preliminary. So I'm not going to do that. That can be worked out later. I just want you to sit with an open mind because we're moving into a time when we've got to have reception. So EJ, if you don't even go back just begin right where you dropped off and let's get through this and then we can have a little break ease the tension a little bit and then we're going to ask him to share some things with us. But I believe in these writings he's going to pick up quite a bit. And then I want to talk about Pleiades I want to talk about Orion and I want to talk about your alien visitors. And I'm sorry that Norio is not here. If you're uncomfortable you can sit down there. We don't browbeat. Just don't get too comfortable there. But you can study the situation. 
[Oberli] Kelly's address I'll put right up front here for easy reference and then move on to the letter. Kelly Cox, Care of Jabrel, that's spelled J-A-B-R-E-L. Post Office Box 690, Powell, Tennessee zip is 37849. Little secret we can have a totally healed person exit from that prison of hell as you share and allow her to experience a loving environment of your words. Look how far ahead we will be when she emerges into freedom and all the time saved in deprogramming later. Let us have this be our gift to Cathy and Mark for having walked this journey through hell to help enlighten us to truth. April 6, Dear Rick, This is the letter from Cathy. Thank you for apprising me of Hatonn's insightful comments pertaining to Mark, Kelly and me as quickly as they were received for print in Contact. I am  overwhelmed with Hatonn's solutions to Kelly's immediate needs and the far-reaching implications of the depth of understanding relayed. My life like my past existence under M.K. Ultra's Project Monarch, absolute mind control is literally an open book by virtue of purpose. Yet nothing prepared me for Hatonn's publicly profound insight into Kelly's and my past, present and future so eloquently described in a few short paragraphs. Ever since Kelly became a political prisoner of Tennessee's so-called Justice Human Services System, Mark has lovingly and therapeutically consoled me through the same logical approach revealed by Hatonn. Anything less would have rendered me hopelessly unable to recover to the extent and depth that I have to date. U.S. Senator Robert C. Byrd, our Project Monarch owner mistakenly staked his political reputation and the New World Order secrets on the belief that I could not be deprogrammed. His stated certainty was absolute based upon his years of experience manipulating me through my natural, primitive maternal instincts. But he like all of our other mind-controlled perpetrators apparently never considered the durable strength of the human spirit and the power of a mother's love to logically surpass the emotional turmoil of the moment. Mark taught me that the best revenge and the only way to effectively help Kelly is through my total recovery. And the only route to recovery under the circumstances is consistent with Hatonn's statement Hatonn's comment. Well I am getting a lot of appreciative accolades here that I revel in of course being almost human in love and being but I must be honest dear ones, I deserve no great bowing for insight. This is the truth of God at work. You have simply lost your direction. I have not. I remember you have forgotten. Soon all of you will be able to hold your direction into truth and then I shall have to abide without much attention to any great presentation. That is when I shall have done my job and can smile from within in my Oneness, unfragmented from my Source. Postscript. All my friends will be there. Back to Cathy's writing. I am deeply pleased that this tried and proven means of coping with reality is going to print for the sake of all other survivors. Particularly for the numerous mothers I know are out there who long to be effectively protective of their precious affected children and for the benefit of all humanity. I am extremely fortunate to have survived to be totally rehabilitated through Mark's profound expertise and love. This, his compassionate depth of understanding compelled me to trust him, whereby I could follow his thought-provoking rehabilitative Methodisms and logical advice and subsequently heal to the depth of my being. And Hatonn's comment, there always has to be a pioneer Cathy who dares. The road to recovery Mark led me through was smooth, painless, fast, precise, and is now well paved for others to follow. The only bumps in the road were or are due to my deep love and concern for Kelly. Yet I did not detour from the path destined for total recovery for her sake as well as my own. At this juncture Hatonn's reaffirmation of the truths I followed empowered me to press onward while enlightening others through Kelly's and my own difficult experience. Because I adhere to Mark and Hatonn's shared stated wisdom Kelly is growing to trust that. With the support of genuine caring others she too will have the opportunity one day to embark on a now well-paved road to recovery.
What better solution for her immediate needs than nurturing from loving others as suggested by Hatonn? The truth will light her way. And yes we need to keep the proverbial spotlight of truth and collective concern on her. Hatonn says, well it is more than that Cathy. Always there is more where God concerns Himself. You and Kelly were all but destroyed by others. It must be through others empowering self that truth is seen and experienced. The withdrawal in the first place is to avoid that which others are doing to you. To find love and nurturing must now replace that which was done to with that which is shared within and through others. When the mind can trust and know that there is bad but it is offset in long distance beyond with good, the soul dares function for it is given hope and passage while the other directions and directives are cast away. Back to Cathy. Rick thank you for sharing Hatonn's wisdom with me on such a timely basis for my heart is lighter knowing we are not alone in these tumultuous times. Warmest regards, Cathy." Hatonn says, now I ask you, who needs more than this to make your day? It's all in your mind. Heading…
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These people and Vladimir, you'll get to know more about these people. Herein lies the heart of it. Why would we choose to bring forth such presentation over this little lady and her child? This lady this woman has been butchered by your elite. She has been raped mutilated mauled by Byrd Roberts Chaney Raegan Bush and so has her child. This is the result of Monarch programming under MK Ultra of your government of thieves and criminals. This is right out of Montauk. And it required someone really visible where there is no ability to deny. Let me tell you these ones who have never had a place to run and no place to hide ain't got no reason to hide anymore and they certainly have a place to run. And make my day if you want to hurt these people anymore. I mean I'm through people. I know this is a new Commander speaking to you today. I have witnessed such heinous crimes in this week. I'm through with it. We're going to do something about it. We’re going to start with Richard Snell this week. And don't concern yourself too much with which way it goes. They're going to lose either way. That is my promise. Go on please. [Oberli] How well do you see, really? As any change comes upon our presence or as focus is aptly applied here and there for some purpose astounding we get the backwash of very thoughtful and insightful questions as ones awakened to the generalized plight of a world. You may only have less than four percent of a world population in elite positions but those four percent have cornered everything for the full mental setting of all of the other percentage. Further you do not see with your eyes. You only at best look. To see is not necessarily to perceive. In this day of true possible vision let us focus on a flower for a moment. You may well see the flower. In this visual game let us choose the universal roles. Choose up one for self right now. If you wish go pick one if there would be one in the garden or vase. Even artificial will make my point. You see something do you not? As you visually look at the object you see something of it. But from any vantage point without moving it or you, you can't even see the other view of its backside or whatever side is away from your line of vision. So far so good? No the mind is registering many things such as the simple art of perceiving color shades of color types of petals types of leaves objects on the surface and that is only with one glance. Now pull the rose close and look deeper. All the same things apply now. Only you add details such as veins in the petals moisture or soil on the petals and leaves and various parts which are in simple view to your collection. Now go within and get a magnifying glass and peer at each tiny but perfect piece of this wondrous thing held in your hand or living and growing upon its life system. You could literally spend days weeks years lifetimes on one subject, the rose in your presence. And move further and take up the perceptions which may be applied to that tiny object in your presence, fragrance which you cannot see, touch, which can prick your finger if thorns be present and aura which is sensed but not very visible, etc. Now check out your eyes. How well do you actually see? Are you colorblind? You cannot even measure what you see as to color because there's no easy way to measure sight except against some established norm. If I perceive blue for instance is it the same shade of blue that you perceive? The reception may be the same for all humans to some extent but as you move from place to place the language may well change and you may not know by name what you mean by a term. Some colors become recognized by titles of nobility royal blue or American beauty and thus and so. Then look into the subject of your very own eye mechanism and how well it sees actually. Is it possible you wear glasses to see better a concave or convex arrangement or possibly a convex or concave lens to assist? Ah now we get into things which require more knowledge. Well to save you looking up definitions because definitions are not our subject yet the former is used in glasses for long-sighted people and the latter for short-sighted people. But I still have a point here. You may see a long or a short distance but how far and comprehensively do you perceive in either distance? I have to use these examples for you don't yet understand the concepts of invisibility for there are so many different presentations of invisibility. There is the actual fact of such molecular dispersion as to be unseen by the eye. There is the fact of two larger things to be comprehensively seen by the eye and of course there are the tiny things which must have greater assistance to be seen by the eye. There is also the bending of light which hides objects in open atmosphere and light bounce which affects vision as in too much or too little. This subject which started about a rose is now in the generations of study without changing the subject of first encounter. The mind is capable of handling one hundred percent of all such information. But such a tiny portion of a human mind is used consciously as to make these things meaningless to the masses who have had their minds purposely vacated. So why don't I just start here and inform all of you willing readers? Because you can't read enough in a lifetime to know even all that I can supply in writings. And your minds although recording the data give you no perfection in recall. Ron Carlson, Ronn Jackson. Two Rons two spellings two lives of almost opposites two men with one goal shared. That goal is a return to freedom of nation an open ability to have perception of goodness. God by whatever label. Each impatiently waiting to clearly see the best way to accomplish the goal. Each willing to see and hear as offered through those higher connections with higher perception seemingly outside the immediate processing of consciousness. They have the one gift which is priceless the gift of asking and accepting that higher knowledge gained by experience of the beyond your grasp for leadership. So what is the task of a higher teacher, me for instance? To cause you to see and hear the possibilities. I am not nor is any teacher guide here to do it but to remind you that you know how to do it with power so far superior to the hapless enemy locked to the local plane and bounded by limitations as to be laughable. Let us take Ronn Jackson as a little side trip for the mind here. He sits in prison and still gets more done for freedom and constitution than any other one person I witness. His work may not be as comprehensive from his vantage point or as hands-on as might be even yours but he has vision and he listens to me if no other. However he may not realize it but he listens to a whole bunch of others who walked away before. There is no way that I can give you each a dream vision for you each will envision that which suits your experience and your manifestation. Those lenses have to be polished to suit the visual acuity and transferred information must be trimmed and explicitly received by mind, which is warped at best. You must learn to see the beauty and wondrous presentation of the rose as well as see the hidden reasons for the gang violence in Washington, D.C., the home of your government which is steeped in rot and decay. Does the rose in Washington, D.C., be less beautiful than the rose in an Oregon garden? No. Sometimes it seems that the rose growing in the slums of a ghetto is far more meaningful and beautiful than the rose which won the prize at the horticulture fair. However, the rose just is. 
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So we see that things and you just are. It is perception reception and consciousness in thought which prevails in all cognitive circumstance seen or unseen. Thought is all there is. Thought followed by higher reception and then moved through by whatever by what you perceive as action is that which moves worlds and creates a movement into perfection and freedom of the mass. That can move in either direction of one toward the invisible higher planes of expression to the betterment or detriment of the manifest mass. God being the invisible thought-master, manifest in every creation and creature is where you want to go but you are distracted by those very manifestations of which you are a part. You need not be restricted to such limitations and the reason you are so restricted is your inability to remember your being. The mind must understand that the conscious brain will take in everything good or bad and work with what it is told. When mankind stopped thinking on higher streams of thought and truth the world as such was destined to be damned and doomed. Because the anti-creator, creation mind drags you into the inability to think in truth but rather to function in his presentation of how you will think and act according to his enforced physical rules. Richard Snell. Why is Richard Snell so important? Because he has learned that his prison is not the bars around his cell. The agony of living is that of incarceration of truth in the limitations of Godness upon the land. That's goodness upon the land. To execute a Richard Snell is but to offer him freedom. Do you know what I mean? Richard Snell is not the one who is going to die from this exercise and in these days of knowing he would not even be long in passage for this is the time of the return of the energy forms of Creator. Richard Snell gives you the opportunity to serve and win. Ah but he would be leaving Mary you say. Would he? You better look at that again. He is in prison being held silent by political baboons and I insult the baboon. Is he helping Mary now? Yes but not with that which you consider help. But she is learning to step out and realize she is not alone and that there are others in God's service who need to come together and work as units in justice. There need be no lynching of your enemy. You are arranging to have them disposed of in the light of truth. You think you need more? Why? To win some round as you think it would better serve? It is not for you to judge, save circumstances, bless your enemy for the insightful lesson and never slow your march to truth. Each event gives opportunity to fail or succeed further. Each circumstance gives you opportunity to take that lemon and turn it into Ed Young pie, or better yet countless more fruit to offer healing of the best kind to a starving world dying of lack of such as vitamin C. Ponder it. We can take the same look at a lemon as at a rose you know. I deplore calling a car that doesn't work well a lemon. Why? Because a car that doesn't work or a refrigerator that doesn't from newness work, is not a lemon but a presentation of the deplorable responsibility of the workman assembling the mechanical object. A lemon in its perfect presentation is always sour yellow yellow-green in its fruit and puckers the mouth. You compare perfection to man's irresponsibility. Richard Snell knows where he is going at passage. He is tired of the struggle infatuated at the turn of events and a bit disappointed that you may succeed because when one knows truth one wants to get out of that mess where you are and come home. He also knows however that at passage his harder labor becomes at hand in service and he has to decide whether or not to remain in your dimension or move on to higher connections with you who struggle in these cycle changes. I perceive he might well serve you better there but either way he will have and will again serve God. My thoughts on Mary? Either way she will make it because you will see to it that she makes it. How dare I speak what they think? Because of exactly that I am privy to that which they think. I have no input or care into that which they do for what each does is part of passage and journey in experience. Actions are reflections of intent so a man might well be considered for his actions but God of infinite creation perceives only intent of thought and perception. If Guy Tucker sends this Godly intended man to death it is not Snell that pays it is Mr. Tucker. And for change Mr. Tucker has to face his intent and his cowardice. At this point he has to face God. He will never in this life or next be free for a single moment in time of Richard Snell. Or because of Richard Snell, any other crime of soul. This is readers called hell. You know what? Neither will little Billy Clinton. Why? Because you are seeing to it. Do you begin to see the mysterious and wondrous ways in which God works His miracles? Each thing created is a miracle. Each thing simply altered and torn down is but magic tricks to fool you. Can you not see that to write in behalf of Richard Snell is in actuality serving yourself? Richard may never know but you do. God is interested in that stand taken in your being that thought of service and righteousness, not whether or not you can physically go march in the parade. Moreover it is the energy gathered in the name of God which prevails. You need only a few couriers to deliver the message. In the annals of history and legacy to a planet and to generations to come would you be Richard Snell or Jim Guy Tucker? You think Benedict Arnold was a bad turkey? No as a matter of fact he was a respectable person who acted and spoke his truth. The treasonous and traitors are those who serve selves as does Jim Guy Tucker and the Billeries of the world not even loyal or truthful to selves. Understand something right here and right now. No matter what happens in your perception, Richard Snell has done his work as such as Jim Guy Tucker, a nothing from nowhere will go down in history as that which they are. Snell one who turned around a nation through God and Tucker, who is a dastardly bastard from hell. Tucker had really better check with his supervisors before he pulls the plug on the life of one Richard Snell. His life will not be worth the proverbial plug nickel if he assassinates this man now in God's focus and spotlight. How can a little unheard-of personage on death row become the focus of a world? God is interesting. So back to such as Ronn Jackson please. Why? There must be leaders. For some of you feel you cannot be that leader who dares or perhaps you are not destined to fill that role in this journey. And why someone with ruthless background and in prison yet for actual crimes? Why not? Why not let a man make restitution if he has erred? Why not allow one who knows he can do it? You are not perfection yet so why denounce him for his own imperfections? When you denounce you point up your own lack of understanding of the journey. But why would he have to have a separate paper. That is a good one and at best if compared to CONTACT, rather mean and ornery. Why not? He can deal with all sorts of political matters share opinions and make noise and movements which would get CONTACT shut down instantly. Ronn gets my full support and honor until he advocates armed rebellion. He can advocate rebellion of any non-violent sort he chooses and keep my full support. He must remain the leader who leads not forces for you cannot force goodness nor compassion nor God. My task is not to form Ronn Jackson in my image and I shall not become in his image. We each have a job to do a mission to which failure is not acceptable as an alternative. We each and all have to know in this end game when to hold those cards fold those cards or walk away and for how long and how far.
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One very large job at hand here is help and ability to get all of the legwork and brainwork accomplished on your place. Until you can unify and have a single voice or presentation it means ones need to present what they can and where they can. Spotlight for instance is a superb example. Watch what happens to them. The ADL sponsored a full-blown raid on the owner of Spotlight right to his home and did so under the guise of patriotic need to check for criminal evidence regarding the Institute for Historical Review which was taken over by twits nerds and treasonous. It sort of all becomes in a day's work because there was no resistance no evidence to be taken and now the idiot perpetrators look pretty stupid. If they had found one rifle even a BB gun it would be called reason for burning mayhem and if they found any drugs even prescription with the label missing, it would have been an incredible scene. It is easier readers to take your chances with true criminals than your new protectors. And no I am not saying that you don't have a new breed of criminal. Down to the children in your society they are without conscience. Street-trained in the worst possible manner and totally brain-dead as to purpose or direction. You have gone about as far as you can go without total destruction because you have every type of decay and overpopulation. The major problem as to violence and mayhem is not that good cannot overcome evil. It is that evil will work diligently to destroy other evil. If you of God can keep out of it while building upon a foundation of truth and equality under God you can turn the world around quite easily. But to stop the ongoing destruction and mayhem until the evil mongers work each other over pretty thoroughly is another issue which I don't feel up to facing this Saturday morning. I can't do it without help. Let us consider your position. You have ones running about as experts and authorities. How come they to be such experts and authorities? It certainly is not usually from knowledge and truth. It comes from being the loudest and most often heard mouthpiece. You are a people literally dying off from malnutrition and demineralization. Famine in the midst of plenty. War in the face of peace and dumbing down in the face of the capability of being totally informed. If you once were perfect specimens of Creation, why have you fallen? Ah I thought you would never see the light of truth. Truth in knowledge has been hidden and you unwittingly accepted it and the lie presented in its place. I am going to give you an example of that which I just stated. I don't at this time even want to bother Dharma with reference because we may well use the resource later. But I just want to make an observation here about your malnutrition and demineralization. I can do it better by sharing research but I do ask that you note dates please. “The Survival of Civilization, the Decline of Soil Minerals, and the Rise of Malnutrition. The true measure of the annual mineral supply coming from the soil is the state of health of plants, animals, and people living on the land. Now the record shows that everywhere one looks there is malnutrition and death. It is a time for dying and the reason is quite clear.” The following is quoted from The Hunza Health Secrets by Renee Taylor in December 1945 in the United States Soil Conservation Publications the following statements were made. “You….
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