940123-2b
9/17/2024 Vivian
MEETING TAPE: G.C.Hatonn 

HAND-HOLDING TIME

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[G.C.Hatonn Speaking] I'm in Florida, yes, because I can use this. I'm in Florida and therefore I don't know what is going on in California, but when Ms. Yount attended a meeting in my home, I thanked her for helping me get my money's return to me because of my association with her. Sorry about that, sweetheart, it had nothing to do with Sherry. I understand that Ms. Yount is a benefactor of the Ekkers. Once again, these cotton-picking Ekkers. If I am incorrect, why haven't you printed the other names of the people that have asked for their money returned? There have been so cotton-picking few. Farewell. Or is this open season on Ruby Pimental? Am I the only person to receive their investment back? 5. I expect to see this printed verbatim in the contact and sending me a copy of saying, if not one or more newspapers in your area might think this newsworthy. Well that was October and I don't believe that contact printed it and therefore I'm taking this opportunity to read it. Oh and then we go just into more garbage. This last one January 4th 1993 

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we meant 1994 it just came. This is to Rod but let me tell you that he sent copies of the letter to Rod Enz. All over everywhere, to Laurie, to Sherry, everywhere. We had three copies back in our office before Rod got his. This is also badly typed, but I'm going to read it as it is. Dear Rod, how can you people put up with the lies? Don't you question anything. I have sent you the documents on who owns the church, and yet I want to ask all of you, do you not remember on George Green's office door a sign that said the Holy Light Network Church. That's one of them. You should carefully reread our original letter to people and Sananda's message carefully. I'm enclosing a copy of Leon Fort's message. Have you ever read it. You should contact him and see all the documents or are you just perpetuating the lie. We are not in contact with anyone down there with the exception of Leon and that only sporadically because he is named in our same suit. 

03:31
We are doing fine. We have two new books coming out. We do not communicate with Ed Young in any way, but would like him to see the documents that Leon has, though. I suggest you give him the opportunity to dig out the truth. I'm also putting you on notice. Please see a tax document that originally was prepared by E.J. and notice Joy's name. Have fun in the writings and publish saying that when gold got back to the point of what they paid for it, they would return the money to Joy’s Trust. I find that interesting since George Green got the money and also signed his guarantor on Joys note. Obviously if this is not done it will trigger another lawsuit and as I told Cort Christie, we carried the project there and I think that he means this differently. They carried the project there to a negative of over $20,000 per month. Well thank him everybody you went in the hole $20,000 a month thanks to him. And we certainly can devote more money to more lawsuits. You will also find that there are no lawsuits that have been initiated by Jason Brandt. Nor is he representing anyone. But I expect I certainly will send people to him and may join him in the slander and lies being said. And obviously you as president and the rest of the board will be named. I hope you have money to defend yourself. I do and will. By the way, there are no restrictions on me selling any of the Phoenix journals. Save the Pleiades connection. And I am really disappointed in him. He has grossly misspelled Pleiades even. Which by E.J.’s own letter we were indemnified against. What you buy into you certainly will accept the responsibility only he himself accept. E-X-Z-E-T. No other not even God will do that to your tax writing on the ego. Up and down while he lifts me up again and 

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draws me into a good road and his name is wonderful. Sometime, and it may be very soon, it may be a long, long time, he will draw me into a valley. It may be dark there, but I'll be afraid not, for it is in between those mountains that the shepherd chief will meet me, and the hunger that I have in my heart all through this life will be satisfied. Sometimes he makes the love rope into a whip but afterwards he gives me a staff to lean upon. He spreads a table before me with all kinds of foods. He puts his hand upon my head and all the tired is gone from me. My cup he fills till it runs over. What I tell is true, I lie not. These roads that are a way ahead will stay with me through this life and after. And afterwards I will go to live in the big teepee and sit down with the shepherd chief forever. Amen. It's hand-holding time, people. You will not be left wanting anything. As we move along and perfect our tasks, that one for whom you wait, that shepherd chief. We've come to bring you the rest of the way. We've come to prepare a place. And we're going to do it. You're blessed. Some of you as we move along may feel that you are cursed. No, you are blessed. You are both blessed and bless-ed. And God does not leave you alone.

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You had to have your lessons. And as you move along and you think that you have had an unfortunate journey in that you have not been able to see and touch, feel and know. You will find that you have everything you need. And I and my crew are being recognized farther than you can imagine in a form recognizable to those with whom we need to commune at this time. And you'll hear a lot of complaints because in and out of those hotels we keep turning on the sprinkler system when we come and go. Got flooded out again commander and we have a lot of fun over nine and a half foot serpents. I want you to know something it kind of bothers EJ that this is still bantered about. That's fine. It's when people use it and they mean it that it is irritating. I don't mind being a nine and a half foot snake. You see snakes are nice people. Man serpents 

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really annoy me. So let's keep our balance because the next very short years are going to be whammers. And I think let’s just go. 

10:47
(Other Speaking) I'd like to mention that John's hearing is on Tuesday so if anybody can go.

(G.C.Hatonn Speaking) There's a court session in the morning that perhaps Gene should talk about and then yes. And let Gene, somebody tell us about these court things. I believe that everybody who possibly can should be present in the court when John is discussed.

(Gene Speaking) Thank you. Can everybody hear me without the television? Hello there. Ladies and gentlemen, never talk more loosely here. Tuesday, well first of all, I have a list of possibly ten persons that I have to speak with about one o'clock tomorrow, probably right here, and I'll read off those names, and if any of you, ten or twelve, can't meet would you please let me know. Sandy Keen, Rod and Ed Cleary, Al Overholt, Karen Singer, Audrey, Brent, Nora, Rick and Claudia. Any of those persons cannot meet here about one o'clock tomorrow? Okay, so I take it that everybody can meet here at one o'clock tomorrow. And what we're going to do. 

(Other Speaking) As long as Teresa is not delivering. As long as Teresa is not delivering.

(G.C.Hatonn Speaking) If Teresa is delivering none of those ladies will be here.

(Gene Speaking) I talked with Brent about that and gave him all the instructions I give to any new father that being first of all you deny paternity. As soon as you see the baby, deny paternity. Okay.

(G.C.Hatonn Speaking) That's all right. I’d take it.

(Gene Speaking) Well, what does the bald eagle think about that? Well the purpose of meeting tomorrow is to become ready for the hearing on Tuesday. Now, last Friday, Mitch and I went to Bakersfield and we located the court where this hearing is going to be held, the probate department. We went to the probate department itself, we pulled out the file, and we found out that no opposition had been filed to our pleadings. And we ascertained from the clerks, which I pretty much knew, that this was a real good fact for us. After that, we went to the probate department itself. We were able to make contact with the probate clerk for the commissioner. 

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We found out that the commissioner was a woman, Commissioner Ryan. And we talked extensively with her clerk for the exact procedures in that particular courtroom. We found out from her that there are pretty much identical procedures being held Monday morning. That's tomorrow morning. And I have to be in Mojave tomorrow morning, and some of us, other persons have to be in Mojave. And Mitch has very kindly agreed to bypass the Mojave appearance and Mitch is going to be our person on site in the Bakersfield Probate Court at 8:30 tomorrow morning and spend the better part of three or four hours there and just to observe, watch, evaluate the Commissioner and how those probate matters are held. I personally have been involved in over 3,000 cases, but I've never tried a probate case. In fact, I'm not sure I've ever been in a probate hearing. So we're doing some extra preparation for this case. Mitch will be back here in time for the 1 o'clock meeting. And at that time, we hope and know Mitch. I am sure we are going to get a very thorough analysis of Commissioner Ryan, the court, and how it was conducted. Well, Friday after we had talked with the clerk, the legal research person at the courthouse, he and I met with Mr. Gardner, who is a public defender officer assigned to the probate department and who was a weak cause to be appointed to represent John. And we ascertain from him that he will be present, but he is not taking a position on the case and that's very good for us. And at some point Judge Ryan or Commissioner Ryan may turn to him and say, do you have a position one way or the other, and his answer will be no and that's a plus for us. Now we have received some notice that John's sister has sent a declaration to the court which will probably be late but we should be prepared for it and I am prepared for it and I'll disclose that defense to everybody tomorrow about one o'clock. So we are well prepared and we are going to be extremely well prepared for the hearing Tuesday morning at 8:15. 8:30? We're going to have a crack crew ready. And I think it would be nice if a lot of you persons did come there. I wasn't able to see the size of the courtroom, but I think it's quite a large courtroom. And I should tell you we are on a winning streak and we want to continue to be on that winning streak. In the last four months I think we've won about everything that we've been involved in and I'm happy to say that we're closing the noose fast, very fast on George Green and we took a major, major step the other day in closing the loop on Mr. Horn in the case against Larry Mitchell, Senator Barber and all those. And if Rick doesn't mind, I'll call upon him as our ace reporter to give his version of what happened when Judge Wallace made his ruling on two issues before him about a week ago I guess.

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(G.C.Hatonn Speaking) I would like to make one comment. I would like all of you that will be to be there to share John's be it burden, be it whatever. If for any reason you do not prevail, it's going to be very, very, very difficult for John. Because they have managed to  absolutely disallow any one of you to visit with him. So what will be your recourse if you, quote, lose? I can only tell you that Dr. Mendelson, a pediatrician, wrote a book called Confessions of a Medical Heretic. Hospitals are hazardous to your health. And there was an issue raised about what do you do when the system disallows you to be around your loved one. You raise holy hell. And if it means go give them trouble every hour on the hour in mass. Do it. You have more power than you know, but not if you don't use it. So think about it carefully. Always with there but for thr grace of God go I and who will come to get you. Alright, I'm through with that one.

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(Gene Speaking) Tomorrow morning, Rick Martin has just asked me what's happening in Mojave tomorrow morning. Tomorrow morning is the continued and hopefully the final hearing on the lot situation. If everybody recalls, I think it was last week, we had a hearing on a motion to dismiss on the criminal case against the Ekkers. And at that hearing, the defense, the prosecutor raised the issue that he had not had sufficient time to fully comprehend the very extensive pleadings that was filed on our behalf. So the court gave him until Monday morning to bring himself up to date with all the pleadings. I did pick up a copy of his response on the 19th. They were absolutely terrible. We don't expect any problem tomorrow morning. The only problem might be the reluctance of the court to make a decision as opposed to continue the matter to see what's going to happen in the civil aspect of it in Bakersfield. I have a personal bet with E.J. on that. The loser has to buy breakfast and we'll see what happens. Rick, would you give us your reporter's version of what happened before Judge Wallace please? 

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(Rick Speaking) The hearing with Wallace in Bakersfield this week was particularly rewarding for me personally because I've watched attorney Horn from Beverly Hills come against the Ekkers for years now and he is such a slithering snake in the grass. A human snake in the grass. I just bristle every time I look at the guy. As a non-biased reporter, I have to say, Judge Wallace was particularly articulate and brilliant in his gentle slamming of Horn's approach to delude and deceive the court. It was all in all, it was just very pleasing to watch. I don't know of any other way to put it. Judge Wallace said, let me back track just a little bit. In Horne's pleadings for this reconsideration, He had to dream up factual allegations that were never there. In our response that was filed with the court, we pretty much referred to them as just total distortions, total lies, total fabrications. The judge, in coming down on Mr. Horn, kindly referred to them as Mr. Horn imaginative pleadings but to a person that has been trained in the law like I have been. Both the judge, Mr. Horn and myself knew that Mr. Horn was being called a big liar. That's about it. Who gets this one?

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(G.C.Hatonn Speaking) Any other announcements? Looks like a busy week. I'm going to request that possibly sometime later in the week or in the very near future. In the depositions of Tuesday, a very good point was brought up about equity in your corporation, etc. And it's something that I don't believe has been discussed very much. And so I believe that maybe you need a little brief meeting on that in the fairly near future. So if Cort would kind of prepare himself, maybe speak with EJ about the possible subject matter. I think it's something that none of you understand very well. And if you are brought into disposition or under question it’s something that you need to know what it is you're talking about. So if we could keep that in mind and then I'm sorry E.J. I'm going to have pronounce this as you are never going to make it. You’re going to go down in Ripley’s, believe it or not, as the smallest cult that’s ever been formed. But then nobody's perfect. And I'm sorry, the newspapers used to refer to George Green and his followers. 

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I guess he still gets it. Because you ones don't qualify. The only followers in this place are not followers of Hatonn. You are in service to God just as am I. Salute.

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END OF MEETING