921114-2b 

8-12-24
Susan

MEETING TAPE: G.C. Hatonn 

WHO IS YOUR ENEMY

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[Oberli] Thank you for the pause. 
We could get even. We could ask him what the date is. I'm also accused of having round heels, not for the jokes that you ones like to tell, but because I'm such a pushover. And I am. But I'm also a parent that loves you enough that there is nothing in this universe, within the Laws of God that I would not do for you. But I also love you enough that I will not allow you to go on in blindness without a hand to hold on to. I am not blind. And I know it's hard to trust. And this is why the volumes and volumes of work so that you don't have to blindly trust. All I can do is offer that hand. I can show you the way. I come with good credentials and a damn good crew. Ones who have experienced trying to make this journey before to bring you truth. And the last need one that came you crucified. Did you really? Does it matter? It was in the hearts. And now, do you see how easily that story was laid so that the one who spilled the blood could be the one to take it all? You’ll blame your responsibility, no thank you. Doesn't work that way. That's what they call new age. How do you have anything new out of something that is eternal? There's nothing new. Unless you've created something new, we better look at that. Because you have created a new philosophy, a new lifestyle. You've created a new set of commandments, new set of laws, new set of rules, and you've destroyed a planet. I'm not interested in your allowing. I'm not interested in your love life. But you better be because you must learn to separate out the physical expression of action and the soul. Because you're going to make a transition one direction or another. And I highly recommend mine. You're faced with the fact that the entire scenario is illusion. This is the test of the soul. What do you do? What do you create? What do you do with what you create? How do you bring it into fullness or wholeness? What do you do with that which is gifted unto you? If you have no time nor space with which to deal, then obviously you can realize and comprehend the greater picture, the greater whole. You see, when you accept and know the greater whole it doesn't matter who Magog or Gog is, does it? Because that obviously is a manifested thought form. So when one's come quarreling to me about how it ought to be, well then go fix it. Don't tell me your sad story. And if you ask me to help you fix it, be prepared. I'm going to do it. Well, that's not what I had in mind. I know that's not what you had in mind. But that's what is. And if you have done such a good job, why are you asking me to help you fix it? We come as the host. People don't like to accept that you're truly in that time of cycle where the Host would be back again. But you botched up a planet and in that manifested form, the planet has taken on life. And therefore you will not be able to destroy any longer that which has been created in perfection and balance. And what you may wish to call the parallel planet is prepared. We don't have to deal with this one. Once you understand that, we'll be better off. You don't have to deal with this one. You have to deal with yourself and your soul and your intent. You have to polish your own diamond. But to do your job, you must know what has come before, to the extent that you can at least identify your enemy, because your enemy has worked since the very beginning to hide himself from you. I repeat, when Commander Gritz said to me, If you are Reptilian, come now, If I am of your place, I am extraterrestrial and I'm not a Reptilian, there ain't no way, Jose. And I even had one when I used that term before, object, because that is a Southern California term, and that makes Dharma the speaker. And as long as you live in those tiny little me compartments, you cannot rise into accepting the truth of the fact of your manifestation. And there ain't no saviors. If you save anything like yourself, it will be yourself who does it. You may be able to physically lift one into safety temporarily, but since the entire scenario is temporary, you've done nothing except prolong an experience. Salvation comes in the form of the energy which is called soul. And you can't do it for anyone else. And you're the only one that can do it for self. Not Jesus, not Saint Peter who checks you off at the gate, just you. Because all these fragments of God's thought, out experiencing, are going to be sucked back. And that which is worthy of God will be sucked back within God. That which is not will be continually fragmented to experience until it's worthy to come back in the perfect reflection. And that means without all that stuff, everybody wants to learn ascension because you're scared to death. And once you understand and you get on the other side, you don't want the drivels and the dregs of what you have left. It is only good for you while you are here, do you see? This is why I say take it, use it, enjoy it, thrive upon it, use it well. But the greed of hoarding it will only destroy you. And you will end up the loser. That you within that makes you unique and you. You can replicate the body, you cannot replicate the soul. You are unique. Man can replicate the body in very short order anymore, but he cannot replicate the soul, that is left to the Creator.
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And each day of your experience you are recreating your soul, do you see? In which direction are you sending it? And does it matter? Indeed, it matters. Well, it doesn't matter to me. I'm just going to go right on to the very brink, and then hopefully it'll be quick, this transition. Oh, don't do this to yourself. Quick. The transition may be very quick. The time drifting around on that other side is going to be infinite. And if all you're doing is waiting to re-enter so you can finally learn those lessons, so you can get on with your experience in soul travel, soul experience. And this is why ones cling to life as long as they do. Because when you get to that brink, you know. And this is why when ones become elderly, they become very often religious, wherein maybe they had not been. Because they're searching, and they will hang on to the pain and agony of the dying process of the body simply to prolong another twenty minutes. That confrontation. But ones are not given the pure path and the ease of just being that way. You have to experience all of those things that the adversary is throwing at you and tempting you because that is the experience. And yes, nice silver spaceships are wonderful, but most of the time we're not in nice, shiny spaceships. We've gone far beyond that. Only nice shiny spaceships stay nice shiny spaceships if they belong to men.

[other speaker] I have a question. 
I would hear it. 
[other speaker] I've been getting these dreams about the, what's it, fake space invasion, and so are my loved ones, or other friends of mine. Do you have any suggestions as to what shall we do, or... 
You just said it in your first breath, these fake space invasions. [other speaker] How do you protect yourself from that?
The same way you protect yourself from the adversary in any form. You clear up your space. And you get the adversary out of it. Or, if you are enjoying that, which most people do, and the tittering about it and the discussion and the playing in it, then you'll just continue to do that. And I can tell you until both of us shrivel away and blow away, and it won’t make any difference whatsoever. You're going to continue exactly as you're going to continue. You know how to stop it. You of all people. You of all people know exactly how to stop it and yet you are experiencing in a human format and you enjoy playing with it. Don't be playing with it when the big boom comes or you're going to be stuck with the wrong craft. It's a time of getting your space cleared and get ready for that which is coming, and then you can enjoy it. And you don't have to worry about phony invasions. Phony invasions are nothing in the world but war. And how do you protect yourself from war? Because this is something structured to deceive you. And as long as you stay in the lighted conduit, you're going to be just fine. And there's hardly any of you that don't really enjoy playing in that, because this is a life experience.
This is a physical experience where you can toy with these things with this conscious mind. Well, I'm going to give you a little bit of joy. I'm going to let you have a little insight into the other side of that veil. These philosophies and these what-ifs can be played in the higher game once you pass out of this particular expression or compression. That's what we do for fun. Now you're stuck with the physical aspect of conscious receiving. And how you handle that is whether or not you progress. So it's up to you. You can play with it, or you can take it for what it is and get control of it. If you do not accept these things, they cannot dump them on you. You have not been dumped on until you accept the load. And that’s why I have really been a little bit irritated as I watch Dharma because she’s tired and I give her that. But she cannot be touched if she refuses to accept it. And she also knows that. So how much does she accept? Well, she's not going to test it far enough to get kicked out if she can avoid it. And if she does, then, well, she'll sit locked in the bathroom or something with a target drawn on her chest or whatever the next show and tell is. But if it makes a point, we'll do it. But I prefer to do it with wisdom. I prefer that you ones demand that the court system respond. And then if they demand a bond, we'll try to think of something else. Or we'll move. Or whatever. But we make the lemonade out of this lemon. We've done it for four years. We can do it another week or two. And it's the four years that makes you so weary, and yet as you look back over those four years, where are we today, brothers that are with me and have traveled for those four years? Because for these ones, it's been five, a little over. We really began our communication in early November and October of 1987. And we've not missed a day in averaging since. Not one. Not one, and sometimes two, three, no weekends, no nothing. The days we miss we make up tomorrow. Will it ever change? Why would you want to change it? You've never had so much fun in your life. You're alive. You're experiencing. Ones would give actually their lives you are to be in a position of impacting the entire planet. How much room do we have on that tape? Let's get some questions. 
[Oberli] Yeah, we have maybe 20 minutes.
[other speaker] I have a question. 
I would hear it.
20:06
[other speaker] In one of the Liberators about 3 months ago I guess it was, you had an article in there that Jesus was not a Jew and it gave a reference of a piece of material in the April edition of the Congressional Library I believe it was. My son-in-law checked that out and he said it wasn’t there and he was all upset about it. And so did they remove this stuff or was it not there or was it there and they took it out when they started checking on it? They said they had many inquiries but there was no such thing there.
I would have to look into it myself. Maybe if you would give that information to Nora or someone here, it could be looked into. 
[other speaker] Okay.
I'm sure that it probably is important for verification or confirmation. It's not, relatively speaking, it's incredibly unimportant. I hear what you're saying and I'm not saying that your question is unimportant. Please understand that. 
[other speaker] Thank you. 
[Nora] I could speak to that. I know there is an article volume. I had a copy. I'll try to locate it. 
[other speaker] Oh, that's very nice. Thank you. 
[Nora] I don't know if it's the same one, but there is a book named that, the Article Volume. 
[other speaker] Okay, thank you. 
Wow, Nora, you saved my assets. Anyone else want to ask anything? 
[John] I have a question with regard to the scenario which unfolded under our very eyes and our time of existence here. Who controls the Russians and who is handling all this stuff? Now you may tell me, oh, it's Satan. But I'm interested in finer detail than that. 
Why? 
[John] Why? Because I've been around here for probably about 60, 70 years.
So much longer than that. John, come on. 
[John] And they've been lying to us for so long, it's hard to put the thing together. To know where we stand, we know that it's all going to come out good in the end. 
Not for everybody. I'm sorry about that. 
[John] Where do we sit in this mess? I'm trying to say that it's a very complex thing which we've been shunning away from all the details. We supposedly get a few details, but that's about it.
Well in your library you have probably garnered more details and information than almost, you know, just any, anybody running around on the planet. As we unfold, I, you see, I could, I could just give you an answer and it wouldn't mean anything. I can just sit back here and say, Nanu Nanu did it. But you see that doesn't answer it, does it? 
[John] No. 
And what you're looking for is God. And you're trying to come to some balance within self about who is God and who is this other that pulls me down. And what we're trying to do is give you some fundamental logic, reasoning, historical confirmation of events so that you can literally see who is your enemy. Well of course names have been changed, races have been called something different so that when it comes right down to today and I say the Khazarian Zionist is your enemy and the Antichrist, you throw up your hands and you say, Anti-Semite bigot, up yours and haul ass out of here. Commander Gritz, ship out, buddy. Get on your ship. That's anger. It's anger at having to understand you've been duped over and over and over again. Each one of you wants to say, Hey, I’m bright, you just told me I’m perfect and yet these imbecile idiots have fooled me? I refuse to accept it. You get out. I'm not going anywhere. I'm not going anywhere in spite of you. I'm here to do my mission. The cycles have come around and it’s time to reclaim. But nobody has to do anything. But I'm telling you, in the expression, on your earth place, it is the Khazarian Zionists. They were called Bolsheviks. They are part of Magog and Gog. According to the language that was understood, you came from the stars. Your planet was sucked out and formed. And you have proof of it. You have thick crust on one side and very, very thin crust on the other. How is it that they call the western part of the United States the new? Because you sit on the oldest and the most deadly dying of the metals. It’s a contradiction everything they tell you is almost the opposite of the way it is to fool you. It is precious ones the illusion of the enemy. It is a battle for souls. And the human consciousness cannot conceive it, cannot. You can say it, and yes, I can conceive that we're arguing over souls, and the battle is at a very high level. No, the battle is right where ever you are however you perceive it. And we accept each of us a mission in any given experience. Just like if we were going to have a play in here today, we could call it on Golden Pond because that's what's in the community today. And there's going to be someone that plays Jane Fonda's role. Someone's going to play Henry Fonda's role. And the play is only in the playing. Shirley MacLaine did a pretty good job of figuring out some things. It's all in the dancing. It's all in the expression. Because all of the rest of the experience is simply a physical existence. And to get through this experience and do the very best to win an Academy Award, if you will, you must play your role well. Well, doesn't that indicate that Satan has a role also, and he's playing it better than you? He’s trained his people better than you? He cannot touch you. You have to allow him and give him everything because he can do nothing except utilize that which already exists. God creates. The adversary takes away. So to outdo this bugger you’re going to have to take your God place. And to do that you already know that you usually have to clean up your act. But you don’t have to become perfect to outsmart him and put him running. And I have all the time into infinity to wait for you to make that turn around that corner. And we're going to make it. And I know you have to try to figure it out, because that's part of your job. 
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But don't get hung up on those little bitty details. You've experienced a lot John and a lot has been allowed to be brought back into your knowingness. And I know it's cloudy because these are the agreements we make. If you knew it all, they wouldn't leave you alone five minutes. Not five minutes. And you're dealing with a deadly enemy. And because you know at that higher level exactly how it works is why you will call out and ask for these insights that you know you must not have. So that I can remind you of what I just reminded you of. It's physically dangerous, it gives away the plan and God does not give away His plan. Even to the son who will return knows not the hour of His coming. Because the moment that He knows, so knows the enemy. Because it is projected into the ethers. So I don't mind you ones asking and asking and asking. You're searching as long as you don't mind my telling you. Patience.
[John] Thank you for the answer. 
It was just a short brief little statement. 
[other speaker] Commander?
Yes.
[other speaker] Traveling through Europe this year in Czechoslovakia they and also throughout Vienna, Austria, the Habsburg family was greatly influenced in all the architecture. I never really heard the Habsburg family before, but they showed their jewels all throughout the palace in Vienna and how the Charles IV's big influence throughout Czechoslovakia and the Roman Empire. What happened to this family that was so powerful for so long, ruling over so many countries? 
Well you got them changing their names etc. like Romanoff, it's just Rothschild, Rockefeller, it's a matter of name changes and until you get into the historical records enough to trace those names back and see what they now are, you won't know. 
[other speaker] You’re saying blood lines you’re saying?
Yes. Anybody else want to ask me anything? 
[other speaker] Yeah, about the Nicholas and Alexander that you, on the last Liberator, you said that they were killed in 1917 when you were talking history books.
That's right. They were. 
[other speaker] What was the purpose of keeping them alive? They just wanted power.
It wasn’t a matter of keeping them alive, they escaped. 
[other speaker] Oh they did?
Yes. It was prearranged escape, but they escaped. And we'll get on back to that historical outlay also, but you can see that we cover so many myriads of subjects that it's... and so much has to be done on a daily basis to keep everybody functioning while this other is coming into some kind of visualization. And you see pretty soon we're going to have to get on with your space connections because as more and more seen and experienced you'll be in the dark there and history will be happening without you. We're trying to save your lives as you recognize it in your physical form so that you can reclaim and come into some of these experiences properly in the environment that allows you to consciously experience and express. 
[other speaker] Hey Commander? 
Yes. 
[other speaker] Why is it important that we learn all of the historical data and facts of the enemy and who they are to get to spiritual understanding and development?
You don't. And some ones don't, but the majority of the people do. And we can't just get you through. That's not my job, just get you through. And if you don't understand who your enemy is you cannot respond even in your soul expression properly because you don't know what you're doing. You are responding to the adversary nine times out of ten. 
[other speaker] Commander?
Yes. 
[other speaker] Can you use your sleep time as your meditation time? Like if you start a meditation and just drift to sleep, and can you use your sleeping time to receive messages?
Certainly. You do the most work during that sleep time, but I, you ones in here, I wouldn't count on that. You have a bigger job. And quite frankly, it's beyond your own little personal selfishness to just receive something. You're busy experiencing and for that I certainly don't apologize. 
[other speaker] How can you remember? Is it possible to remember what you do during that time? 
Sometimes when you are really ragged you will remember just briefly as you wake up. But those, it's an agreement that is made before you come back into your consciousness to leave those there. You see, you ones want to know it all, but you don't think beyond into the dangers of knowing it all. And that's fine for you, except that nobody... I remember this thing that's in between these lips. You don't keep from wagging it. There is no point, you think, in having an experience that you don't go share. After all, I had this wonderful experience. Who cares? Well, you care, but you tell it. Oh, well, we're going to land on Thursday next and blow away Phoenix or whatever. Come off it. God is not a human. He's more intelligent than that. And you better thank Him greatly for that. He doesn't tell you the plans. But I won't repeat the story again about the master coming. 
[other speaker] Commander?
Please
[other speaker] I have a question that comes up to me a lot that’s trying to understanding the adversarial forces the physical adversarial forces, let us say those that control Magog, Henry Kissinger, individuals in the power position, do they have the knowledge that we're getting of the history of all of this, how it's been brought up, and kind of where they're going with it all? Do they know everything, or are they just kind of little pieces of a large puzzle? 
Well someone like Henry Kissinger would have historical data pretty well down. Most of them know. Do you really think George Bush would know all this? He in his self-importance already knows all he needs to know. He doesn't know anything. And that makes him a very, very valid tool of that enemy. He's manipulated. And then finally he's blackmailed, you see. And trapped. Once you have gotten that deeply into it you’re trapped. 
[other speaker] Commander?
Please.
[other speaker] How can the, if the soul is the breath of life, how can the breath continue to be, live? I don’t understand how being function and do all the things they need to do without that breath of life? How does that work?
Well, most of them don't know they don't have the breath of life. What happens on a life-sustaining system in a hospital? You have a functioning brain. You even have limited expression and most ones cloned are going to have the expression of the one from which they're cloned. You cannot have one without the other.
[other speaker] Is there like an artificial breather or life support system involved in that? 
No. You have a control center called the brain and it operates the mechanism. 
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[other speaker] So they breathe like we do? 
Of course, yes. And whatever DNA structure is utilized you're going to have that downloading into your brain. 
[other speaker] So with the replicated Reptilian, little greys, things like that, it was kind of interesting, I was talking to my 8 year old son about this and he said, well there must be beings like that somewhere if they grew them. They had to get the cell from an original somewhere so there must be beings like that living someplace. 
Not necessarily. 
[other speaker] No?
You see, you can do a lot with science. Anytime that you have the capability of checking out one gene from another, etc., you are into a world now where you can magnify to the point that you can really get into almost every thing and if you can cross those cellular structures DNA wise, you can produce incredible things. And it's only genetic or cellular problems, mutations if you will, cellular upheavals that cause anything from cancer to virus. You see, you're going to find that the newest bit of information regarding AIDS is going to come that in the user community of drugs, that in fact the drugs being utilized had as much to do with the formation of the crystalline virus, HIV, as any contamination. 
[Nora] I have a question. I was reading about the Sumarians and came across a picture of a seal, a stone seal carving of a scorpion man. And I was wondering if, like the prophecy in the Book of Revelations where these scorpions and their power band and tails and so on I'm assuming they're kind of created beings by our adversary for our destruction but the question is were they also part of the destruction of Sumaria or part of their knowledge or whatever.
Well, you're going to have to realize that so much of your expression is symbolic. And when you say scorpion men, do you really think literally that there might have been men running around who look like scorpions or sting like scorpions or something. I assume that that could be created. 
[Nora] It showed the picture now. 
But don't take it literally. Just let it unfold. You will find the answer to that, Nora, and I don't mean to cut you short because you did me a great favor a minute ago. But you're going to find that, especially for you ones who are birthed under the sign of Scorpio, have a great responsibility, great responsibility on this earth. And let's see how you do with it. There's a reason for those signs. If you just go to the fortune teller and the astrologist, you're going to get a wrong impression. Those represent different things. And there are signs. And we know exactly where to go to get our workers for what. And no, I don't look like a Reptilian. Not even a chameleon. So, you're safe. 
[other speaker] And what's the difference? We talk about soul pairing, what are we talking about, is that like a spirit? Like the spirit myth, and growing up as a Mormon I always had, excuse me, had the concept that we had, or grew as a spirit and then we were blessed with the physical. 
That's right. 
[other speaker] So is that what we're talking about when we talk about soul pairing?
Yes. That's right. 
[other speaker] So is that what we're talking about when we talk about soul, the spirit? 
Yes. 
[other speaker] How does that relate to an astral body and you know the difference? 
That is what it is. That is your spirit. And there are these long voids or periods of expressionless periods, if you will. The best breakdown, I think, of these, quote, time segments is expressed in the Pleiades Connection. 
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