920604-1a

5-7-24
Susan

MEETING TRANSCRIPT:  G. C. HATONN

HATONN WILL NAME NAMES...NEXT TIME 

00:03
While you're still here, let's just get the other one out of the way too, because George is not privy to this other information. E.J. was going to send it over, but the letter never did get transferred yesterday. These ones were in court yesterday morning only to experience one more strong arm of the law. And I'm talking about letter of the law, incorrectly even interpreted, you've got a long way to go. I can't even express my own sorrow that you must look up from a perception of a bottomless pit to climb out of this. And when you realize that all things will come to pass and you will have pretty much a collapsed world before you have opportunity to begin to set it straight. I know it's a very hard anticipatory journey. We welcome friends here this day. I appreciate your ones coming on a Thursday. We very often keep gatherings to the weekend simply because of the convenience and more ones can come, especially ones from a distance that will be working with us. I repeat over and over we don't have a group as such, so anyone coming to visit with anyone here is as welcome to call a meeting as anybody else. And we appreciate the opportunity together because regardless of what else we're doing, we're just going to be going on about our work. And the interruption is sometimes very good for all of us. So before George has to go, I would like him to hear the writing for today, because this is the only manner in which I can really express my support and that which I am going to stop tolerating. I confront any man, any energy, bring them on. But I'm not longer going to tolerate anonymous misery dealing. I am going to start naming ones. I'm not going to start naming ones however this day. I'm just sending out the warning. So to anyone who has contact with ones who do a lot of poison pen letters and spread a lot of gossip, intrigue and pain about, I want you to know I have just given warning. We're not little children anymore. Ones come into our midst and I honor them. They have to understand that we are five, six years now into a program. I have been writing since the fall of 87 with this one, but it took an entire year before we got to the point of really writing information that would go forth. And some of that early information and some of those thousand or so tapes that were made are the best training grounds that any of you could experience. But there is not time for anyone in this place to put it to order so that you can utilize it, although ones are going to be certainly welcome to do that. So it's been a massive push. And if ones out there in the public think we are twiddling our thumbs, they're going to find that it's a 24-hour-a-day job for these ones, and I'm tired, weary, sick unto... well, I guess I won't say it... of this barrage, of this speculation, of these little innuendos. I expect it to stop. Or I expect ones who feel that way, either to come forward, we will talk about it, or please go. We have a world in absolute disarray. My mission is to bring the Word, and these ones are doing everything they can under the worst of circumstances. And then on top of that will come the building. They have had to go and research and ferret out the fundings and the sources so that even the building can be done. They're not allowed the privilege of one task. They are allowed one impossible task following another and in many ways their repayment is in insults, pain, disagreements, I don't like the way you do it. Well God doesn't like the way that is done. I always end up speaking to a group that doesn't deserve it and yet you're the ones who are going to have to see to it that the Word goes forth. And you're going to see it written. And if I'm telling you today, if the boots fit, put them on your feet and wear them, because those other boots out there are going to walk all over you. Your world is headed straight for destruction. I am in the process now of outlining the cosmic order. There are documentations on your place from the Sumerians, centuries and centuries ago, that too has been kept from you. Right out of Sumer, in Mesopotamia, in Iraq, friends, that's why you had such surgical bombing of the museums and the mosques to keep you from having the very proof you must have and yet that information is also stored in the museums in France and the library in France and other places. I'm not going to dig it up for you. I'm going to tell you how it is. And if you want your confirmation, then you go dig it up because it's there. This is, this is known as the Epic of Creation. And I'm going to do it in a series and Dharma's a little irritated because it too was precipitated by one just flinging mud and stones, but I'm tired of it. I am really tired of it. So Oberli, if you wouldn't mind reading that before George has to go, then we'll release him. Is that going to work now? 
[Oberli] I think the mic works okay. George is on a short time, so I'll go right to the letter that we got in from T.D. dated May 27th. Dear E.J., here is a portion of a letter by someone who was in Tehachapi and around your group for some time that I would like Hatonn to comment on.  I left Tehachapi with this quote, I left Tehachapi with serious doubts about Dharma slash Hatonn. A friend planted a lie in the inner circle who gossips with Dharma, and the lie was printed as truth in the Express within a week. I'm afraid E.J. and George Green are playing banksters with the Education Institute funds. I know they leverage the gold by 50 percent and I don't know about their secret investments. They built a big underground shelter, much dollars, and made it clear it was for the immediate family. I think that means Dharma's and E.J.'s immediate family. He also said words to the effect, quote, I've heard George make outlandish claims in seminars about himself and his relationship with the Pleiadians that I know from my past relationship with George are simply untrue. I hope you guys are doing well and we can somehow win this battle. T.D. That's the end of the quoting. Commander, would you like me to continue with your response? 
Oh, absolutely. 
[Oberli] All right. 
That's the point of this little exercise. 
[Oberli] T.D., if it were not you who ask in earnest attempt to find balance and protect our work, I would simply not take time to answer, for we are finally to the work in which we make our connections in proof of presence according to records already on your placement. Distractions can sometimes be too large, however, to ignore. It is painful. We have two threatened lawsuits right now, one because Germain gave you information on light, and honored one Walter Russell. These ones wish to remove all information regarding our references to this wondrous man from the public. This is a place set up in his name, for goodness sakes, and is spoiled and rotted by the minds and hands of those claiming furtherance of his work. My people have never heard of the place, and yet there is a cease and desist order and an order for impounding of all Journals which make reference to Russell.
10:06
Russell was one of the most gifted receivers from our realms of any man on your place in the recognition and giving forth of the truth of what is God. May we not refer to your written Bible? How about your Constitution and or Bill of Rights? May we not give recognition and service to truth-bringers? Are ye all gone mad in your nightmare? Then, George has a lawsuit pending from one who simply wants her work published, right or wrong. She was asked to write and then wrote, but the information became totally her own and is erroneous, along with presenting a lifestyle totally contradictory of God's values. What shall George do? Publish it. As at present she has the reins. You readers are going to have to be discerning, and George is a publisher. Nothing more, nothing less. You will not, however, affix either Sananda's picture or His participation, as claimed. Well, readers, you see, this one gave a gift to help, demanded nothing in return, for if there was return, she would feel insulted. She went even further, as she said, year before last, to not look further for backup for the dwelling, for she could write a check to cover it and to consider it done, and that way the legal misery would cease. I believe you can see that this did not happen, although there were several, including George and Desiree, present at the speaking. Interestingly enough, E.J. recognized the potential and did, in fact, place her gift into gold against this very happening. Furthermore, when the price of gold again reaches the price where purchased, the gift will be returned, and then, George, take the erroneous information and cast it to the winds, if you would rather do so to protect your own inner standards of material offered. Son, I have never limited your publishing, for it is not mine to do, neither the distribution of that which you have in store or gather in. We separate that which is ours from the other as requested, and readers and seminar listeners must do their own discerning. Our truth will stand all attesting, any can place on it, and comparison only more clearly shows it as the truth it is. The person in point of the letter above recently did pass this way and much other pain and nationwide misery and hurt has followed him and his trail of poison. Serious doubts, we welcome serious doubts, for in the open doubting the response can be given. Inner circle, who gossips with Dharma, a bit harder. There is no inner circle and Dharma doesn't have time to gossip. She is protected almost to the point of total isolation from almost everyone, so this can only be intended to hurt the one who might consider herself a friend of hers, close enough to have confidence. Plant a lie? Does this not speak for itself? This is a place of sharing in the newspaper any and all information as may affect you readers. It is obvious that this person does not read well. I am not a magician in the first place, and secondly, my people who do the paper are very, very human, and constantly tampering and re-editing of the paper fell into rather hurried and harassed hands. I think it is most unsavory an intent to not share the lie with us so we could set it to straight for you readers, if indeed this has happened at all. I become suspicious without further attending it because it has been long ago that we have published the Liberator and not the Express, as reference indicates from the writer. Now I would like you nice people to tell me where you can leverage gold to 50% and have secret investments. Each of you readers consider how much you have contributed and let's see if the fortunes of the elite could even survive much less have great garnering of wealth at anyone's expense if in fact there was truth in any measure. I believe there have been some who have placed great sums of money in the Institute and did in fact later take it all out without even the cost of gold differential given consideration. That meant, readers, that these ones had to make up the very difference in cost. Does that really indicate a personal attitude of selfish greed? As to the underground shelter, Dharma's son allowed use of his land and the space beneath the house he was ready to build for a full second-level basement built to specifications, which could later be used as a guide for building safety facilities. It is a basement, not a shelter. It is a place for all in the, quote, family who work on our projects to find short-time radiation security until such time as more can be built. It is a place where food is stored in cooler temperatures, sufficient for survival for the entire group present for a period of time until such can be obtained by the individuals. It has already been spoiled by publicity and rendered useless for its first intended purpose of storage. All expenses are paid for by the construction loans, and by the way, all investments are fully covered by legal, authorized notes and agreements. How dare this continue to be cast about? This is a blatant attempt to tear down our work, and I shall not keep silent longer." Quote, George make outlandish claims in seminars about himself and his relationships with Canadians that I know from my past experience, relationship with George are simply untrue. This person indicates a long-standing relationship of extreme closeness with George. How does this one know what George's relationship with Pleiadians might be? This person has become judge and jury. I doubt this person knows much of anything about anything. Is this person not without error? Does this man risk all he has to share with the public what he perceives is out there and has personal comfort and truth of that relationship? Does this man do anything save throw stones and lies against brothers who are trying in every way possible to awaken you sleeping brethren? Well, I'm going to take action myself and allow further separation from George in this type of battering by shifting of locations as are now underway. There will be building and projects getting underway soon, and Greens have offered to work on establishing them in Nevada, while we work on the necessary ones here at this location. There will not be a wedge hammered between these two couples of my choosing, for together, not even being allowed the generosity of closeness of friendship and confidence have given the world the greatest gift mankind has ever received. And you ain't seen nothing yet. Do they do business in the same manner? No. Do they believe identically? No. But each has purpose and each serves according to his own intent and capability, and it will work to perfection as the plan unfolds. One area is not intended to be the replica of the other, for reasons which I have pointed out over and over again. One area must make foundation in business capability, while the other draws up a survival and remnant passage conglomerate serving all needs. Both will do wondrous business and the return will be worthy, but you are in a degenerating world. And this kind of suggestion that in the midst of the pressures involved in God's work and the massive amount of building and service needed that these ones are somehow ripping off innocent readers is beyond my ability to forget. Forgiveness is not in point for the lessons are abundant and I cannot give enough gratitude for the opportunity of utilizing such. Forgiveness is divine. Forgetting is stupid. Learning is wisdom. Failure to learn is stupid. So be it, for ye who would set yourselves above others shall surely fall and become their servants. 
[George] Thank you, we gotta go. 
[Desiree] Thank you, good luck. 
[other speaker] Do good work. 
Why do we have to do this one to another? Is there not enough to be done that would allow us to be kind? There's only one reason to come to this place, and that is because you're called or you feel needed or you want to be here. For our two friends, Bob and Buddy, this day, I would like to say that I apologize that this subject needed to be covered, but I would hope that it would give you a little better insight as to our purpose here. We're not in the seminar business. George is a publisher. He is in the distribution of books business.
20:04 
It is a bit unfortunate because his entire past has been connected with one such as Wendell Stevens and well let us call it the UFO community. Lazar, Lear, Cooper, this group. This is not accidental. He has traveled in the elite government circles. What you ones might consider heinous, although I notice that each one of you are a little bit uplifted when you hear me say that George Bush came all the way out here to talk to our person. It wasn't George, was it? You're in a situation where the ones of you involved are going to have had some incredible meetings. How can we get a job done if we are battling all the time that element. The point is we must grow up through that element and they are going to have to allow us to do it. They can kill you dead. Our purpose is to not get dead. Our purpose is not to have martyrs. That's over. Forget it. You don't have that privilege. Get off your ass and get busy. No more dead martyrs. You were given brains, creative thought. Let's get this job done. I don't want to sound like an Earth preacher either because I disagree with almost everything they tell you, and you're going to find out that even Creation is a mixture of everything. Please, don't miss one single paragraph of what I'm going to write over the next period of time. Maybe I have to be aggravated into deciding this is the time, and I may be outstretching a bit. But we're going to start moving into some very physical jobs and I must attend them. That means Dharma has to attend them and she is only a human being. She cannot carry the load, do you see? When ones thrust out at ones like George and Desiree, Ones forget they came here putting all of their resources into this. Whether you like it or do not like it has nothing to do with it. And there cannot be backbiting about it. They worked it out. Dharma would take absolutely zero for the writing. For one thing, they cannot afford to appear to have anything. They certainly would not be out there ripping off anybody when they are presenting themselves, for goodness sakes, on food stamps and collect them. I have to make this clear because these comments come from this group. And if you perceive that there is great abundance, I repeat, consider what you have put into it because there is not all of that massive amount of money that you seem to think there is. And out of that, every cent of it is done in absolute care and notes that these ones guarantee full payback for, not everybody in the room, them, so that a remnant can get through because they hear what I say. And we have to work together and I don't want to shout at you because I know that you participate in love and you are eager to do more and more and more and the only pressure that you really have and whatever precipitates it in this little gathering is simply impatience for getting on with doing and working and we get closer. But each one of these things slows us up. I just had to stop a massive project from coming to fruition this week because of this. I cannot have this kind of information going forth when these ones are standing in a court of law while they are being stripped of absolutely every potential that they have. I will not have it in question. How is it that you're going to get funding? Is it going to fall on you? No. These ones have taken every resource, sold everything they had, and they invested money to get money. And the return is ready to begin. And I stopped it until we could get something settled and some separation into this operation. Get ones moved and established in Nevada so that business can be gone on and taken care of there, but we also build here. Your first thrust was to get the Word out. We're doing it. That will not stop, but it may have to slow up while we go on about business. We will not stop the Liberator. So for you ones who want to know what's going to happen with the Liberator, nothing. Nothing. George has offered, he has looked into printing and presses and he would very much like to move it to Nevada with him. I have said no. Not under any circumstances at this time. Number one, they don't need the added burden over there of trying to ship on deadline basis material back and forth and dinking around with formatting, etc. and I will not allow it out of my control for this very succinct reason as stated there. So nothing basically is going to change in this office, if you will. Ones who would be ordinarily going with George because you want to and that is your direction and that is your guidance with blessings, go. Because it will be a place of great business growth, great strength and a focus. But it's going to be more of a business focus. You're going to have to be dealing with the IRS. Ones you think you get into a corporation and you are forever done with everything, I think John Schroepfer can tell you that is not true. They will never stop hounding you. You've got to have cover. We have got to be allowed to build. Duplicates can be built in both places. But the thrust of business, with corporations doing business as other corporations do business, needs to be there, where the laws can cover. The ones here need to be prolific in production, but must never show a profit, because there will be no stock issued. There will be abundance returned. It is an entirely new concept of business. Whereas you're not going to sit back with your feet on the table and say, well, I'm the president, I expect. I'm sorry. No hierarchy, no pecking order like that. Whoever knows what they're doing is going to be president. And he's going to get in there and roll up his sleeves and work right alongside the what you might consider lowliest because there aren’t any lowly positions. There are no demeaning positions. If you don't have every position, you don't have a functioning whole unit. And I believe that you have seen five pages of lists, and each one of those are going to have subheadings. You are ready to start filming a motion picture. We have to turn to those things, those positive things. We've got to give up the things of childhood. We will either work as a unit, I did not say a little groupie, nor a commune. You will put your own dreams to paper and share them so that they can be funded and built and brought into fruition. 
30:13
If you don't believe in them, how do you expect someone else to? Dream those dreams, get them on the paper, and whatever funding then has been earned as a reward will flow and it will continue to flow as long as you continue to do your job. The minute we get into hassles it will stop, I guarantee it. I will not fund any projects that pull people down. You are to build a new world structure for a group, a remnant. It must be, it has to be. That means that you cannot have the privilege of playing in the game of the elite, as the elite. And yet we are going to walk right under shelter. I quite frankly enjoy nudging George Bush and Kent to come down here and meet with Donahue. What in the world is wrong with that? Why do you want to delegate and put God in the garbage heap while all of the elite reap the rewards thereof. Aren't you worthy? If you feel unworthy, then you feel that God is unworthy. And I don't need you in my troops. I have to have full cooperation. It doesn't mean you can't visit and participate. It doesn't mean that you have to give up all your doubts about who I am, what I am, etc. But if you're filled with doubts, please read. If you're still filled with doubts after you have studied it all, then I'm happy to explain it. But I’ve got to move on. We come in a very logical manner from the cosmos. I come bringing God and the Christ and the Brotherhood of Light. We are the hosts. We are come to prepare this place for this great transition and sorting. And you ones have a lot of trouble dealing with what I'm telling you these days. The minute replication is mentioned, everybody in the audience turns off at a seminar, for instance. And yet other ones in the seminar making their projections already know of the incredible technology and the lies sent forth from the elite to you. I find it extremely interesting that you can create viruses, you can create animals, you can, I mean this will get into your papers and your magazines and so forth, and yet the moment that it is presented that there is a possibility that you have replicated a man, you go into a total panic of denial. I do believe that some of us as speakers could keep the exaggerations down a little bit. I don't argue with that point, but I also say whoever would throw the first stone, let him get up there and do the job and then let's see how perfect he feels. So we're going to learn to be a little bit more giving and understanding and sharing. We must share these things. Doubts shared are the only way to overcome them. So don't think, well I'll just shut my mouth and I won't ever say again and I won't have an opinion again. That is not of which I speak. That is what they are depending on you to do, to isolate yourself. No, if you perceive a problem, talk about it. And let's see, where there's smoke, there's often fire. We'll investigate. But we're not going to crucify. Now the one in point has not been disclosed. Of course I know who it is. This is another game you ones think you're going to play. I won't tell and I know they don't know because I'm not sure that Dharma's any different than Hatonn blah blah blah, yeah whatever. Well, she's pretty damn sure because she doesn't know who it is. And so she thrusts out and she wants to guess. And amongst them, she did guess it. But all the clues are there. You see, these kind of evil thrusts leave clues. Even the one receiving the letter from this party covered it. Why do we not confront? If we are so outspoken as to send clandestine letters, national security is not involved. You're not in the CIA, most of you, but I have told you that you've got them planted in amongst you. Some of them don't like to come around anymore. Does that make their truth any less valid? Absolutely not. It makes it, in most instances, even more valid. I'm not here to judge men, and neither had better you be. But you better discern if someone's cutting your throat, because you will bleed to death. I promise it. And if you've severed relationships so that your buddy won't bandage you up you're in bad shape. This person is totally, completely filled with pain and misinformation, anger, fury, having searched and researched, searched and researched, all over with the great gurus, only to be disillusioned, only ending in the finding of lies. The fact of the matter is that person came here and found truth, confronted me and said, this is true and I thank you. These lessons can be precious, but as the load picks up and it will and I hear all of you, well that's what we've been waiting for, yes it is, but if you're incapable of handling privacy and meanness, then you are not capable of handling God's work to the magnitude that it must be handled. And there will be numbers, great numbers of ones brought in to take responsibility because you see, it doesn't matter how long you've been here. If it isn't your task and you're not good at it, you will not be put in it. Some of you will be very good at a task and yet you don't maybe understand you have a greater contribution to make somewhere else. So if we're going to just square off at one another, Well, I'm just as good as she is, or I am better than he is. Fine for your own opinion, but it will hold no weight at all with me. And this is why I have maintained control of the way the funding would come, because I intend to sit as chairman of the board of everything we do. I have arranged for it to come into the directorship of the ones with which I work, so that I can tend it.
I don't have the problem that you do on Earth, and I can work within that problem on earth because my job is so incredibly huge. I must see to the life forms on this planet, of which six and a half billion are going to be annihilated. And I believe as you see in the changing of the greatest cycle as you come around here. Even as you move into this photon belt, you're going to have to begin to understand that your government really has been nasty to you. 
40:18
They know all about that belt. They know what you're headed for and what have they done? They have put gag orders on every scientist and the military. Penalty of death for telling the public this information. Does it mean it will come off Hatonn at the end of July?
Who cares? You better pray it doesn't. Isn't it time you got eager to have something not happen so that you have a little longer to get squared away. You have such a massive job to do and you need every minute, every hour, every day you can beg, borrow or steal. I keep prodding these turkeys up there, you know, go ahead, let's steal a little time, go ahead and ignite this and bash that and blow up the other. And maybe we can create enough energy out of it to give you another six months, another year. This has been planned from the beginning to come off right now so that you would be at disadvantage and the conspirators who know this can do their dirty work. It's no accident that the great cosmic changes will come at the same time they want to perfect Plan 2000. There has to be a reason for the beginning and ending of counting. What makes a millennium? Oh, a thousand years. Well, starting from where? Try the cycles which begin and end and begin again in the massive cycles of the universe. And as you might just think about it, you'd probably assume that every thousand years there was something very important that made them start counting and referring to millenniums in the first place, more than just a thousand years. Because I haven't noticed any of you two-legged creatures running around here living a thousand years. And yet some are brighter than others. That means you ran around somewhere or at least your mind did in some form or another. Well you ones who are called to come because you're searching and I'm not going to leave Bob and Buddy out of this. It's because you have a nudge, maybe, maybe an itch and maybe you won't scratch it this time. You'll keep looking. But you were nudged or you wouldn't be here. Now, that’s just the way it is. And I'm always sorry if we disappoint ones. Because, you know, it has been suggested that we could dance around the room like Motu and Punitory. Well, yeah, I could drape Dharma in Swami clothes too. Would it make her more pure? I doubt it. She'd probably be really irritated with me. Shall I present to you the 64,000 year old extraterrestrial? I'm older than that. That would be my first big lie. And so is that one. Maybe that was his first big lie. And yet we all come trying to introduce ourselves, make these reconnections with, in some way that you ones can respond and remember. You can’t blame those energies if you misjudged. So I suggest you get off the kick if you're on it. Errors? Oh yes, they made errors. Ones have asked me about Mark Prophet and Claire Prophet. Mark was a gifted, gifted receiver. Claire tried. Claire tried to carry it on, but she became Mama Guru. Got caught up in all of the pressures that go along with a commune group. No commune. And once again, I'm going to repeat, ones have to be self-sustaining. That means we have to build a self-sustaining society, community, business, so that you can be repaid for your contribution. And that allows you to buy food from your neighbor who has the food store. I don't even like volunteers. I appreciate and honor charity and giving.
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