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MEETING TRANSCRIPT:  G. C. HATONN

TIDBITS FROM GERMAIN

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[Oberli] And I'll try again. It's June the 25th, 1991, 4.30 p.m. We gathered at the bookstore. Greetings, Commander. 
Good afternoon. I don't see why my humor is not as funny as yours. I said we would be to make soon enough. 
[other speaker] All right. 
Does anybody remember what year we're in? That's a serious question. Year four. You're about to close that one out too aren't you? I'm Gyeorgos Hatonn. I come in service to God. I welcome friends who come and experience with us. I've sort of been put out on the wash line while Germain and Dharma finish this volume. And they did it half hour ago but she just groaned because tomorrow morning they start the next chapter. Germain is a, you know gets the floor and he hogs it. Please note you in this group that we will probably be having some study workshops with this information after Germain gets it all into the first few volumes. We'll probably write some workbooks to go with it. It's the most important information that you will ever have, before or after. It's hard to come into understanding when your world must be exposed to the kinds of bombardment which you perceive is happening to you. Its more difficult to believe that you have been misled according to the scientific proof of everything in your universe. Which really makes it worse than anything that the adversary could do to you. But that's what's happened. Eons and eons since the beginning, total disinformation and ones wonder how does it happen? What happens, how can such things as mathematical scientific information be incorrect? For the same reason that Stan Friedman can go forth and pronounce himself an authority on UFOs with all incorrect data. One pronounces it, those who wish to agree, agree, those who do not wish to agree, disagree, and someone gets to be the spokesman and it becomes written law. You have to remember what the human mind responds to authority, expertly opinion. Doesn't matter if it is correct or incorrect if you can establish that you are an authority as Stanton Friedman does. I use him simply as an example, no more than that.  So he presents himself as an authority and others support that. Each time they introduce him they will say, and we have an expert with us, an authority who has studied umpteen thousand years of information and has reached all the correct conclusions, therefore he is the authority. He's done nothing. This man has done less than almost anyone else. But he's put forth there as a disinformation expert. So always authority. Man listens to authority. You print that and you have compounded it. It doesn't matter if it's right or wrong. It's printed. Here it is in this book. I can turn the pages and I can show you right here, right here, it's where it's at. And look, they even did some studies. Well, I don't know what they were. Don't ask me to explain them, but here they are. And they put some numbers down here. And I'm off the hook today by the way because Germaine now has blasted Bruce Cathie. I apologize in advance to the publishers I was going to let it go but he's absolutely correct in his deduction. Germain is an alchemist. Germain is a scientist first. He's worked with the greatest scientific minds of the generations and experiences both on the higher planes and on your place. So he's an alchemist. He comes on the Seventh Ray which is the Violet Ray of Transmutation. That means something. It doesn't just mean a purple shirt or royal robe or lovely crown with amethyst. It means a frequency that can impacting other electrical, circuitry, transmute things. And he has presented authority in this manner. So what? If you do not understand the whole of either the problem or the solution, what good are your numbers? I honor Bruce Cathie because he's done a lot of investigating, a lot of mathematical calculations, a lot of research, personally walking to these vortices. And he has a pretty good idea of the electrical circuitry of the grid, as far as frequency and vibrations. But if you do not understand the other half of what you're talking about and refuse to look at it, you don't have anything. If anything, you have done a disservice. To know that a spacecraft comes into visualization at a frequency of 16.9443 means zero! Zip! Because if you have a different arc, a different latitude and longitude is not going to materialize anyway unless the driver of that craft chooses it to materialize. And if you don't come to understanding the mind of God as projects matter through electrical waves, it doesn't matter one whit how many tables or frequencies, octaves and tonal vibrations you have. Now I don't even want to be put into the same category and classification as the corner preacher. You see this is what happens to this beautiful, beautiful word called Christ. This magnificent word called God. It is so misused that used in truth is almost embarrassing. Well what did you do this afternoon? Well we went over to the bookstore and we talked about God. We talked about the mind of God and the projection of God and oh you know. No there isn't anyone who can know, there's no one who can know. I don't want to belittle your participation by insulting you and even inferring this isn't one of the most important groups that you will ever join, that you will ever be privileged to sit in. Is that because we're so hotsy totsy? No. It's because it is the group through which the truth of God and the universal creation is being brought to you. Does that mean that Dharma's fingers are any better than anyone else's? No, but they're getting faster. There is a glory in the relationship that gets it down to our level and when I speak of our level I speak of God's level. You get off the marble pedestal you come down to where we're at where we experience in the electrical cycles of mind God-thought because that's all there is, precious ones. God is the zero. God is the quiet, the rest, the source, the end, the beginning. And I don't care what man wants to think about that, and you can go have a vote on it if you want to, but that's what it is. God is zero. God projects. Let's call Him one-dimensional because all is one. So we'll call God oneness. Therefore God is one-dimensional. He just is.
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The projection of God-thought which manifests everything else, the creation is 2 dimensional. As a thought goes forth, it splits into pairs. What we call male-female simply for your benefit. Everything experiencing is of pairs. The acceptance or action of God thought, the electrical pulsation of the wave which manifests matter moves from two-dimensional then into three-dimensional perception. I wouldn't even try to go into even a basic explanation of that. It’s being briefed down as much as Germain can do so hoping for comprehension. And as you study the material coming through we need a little feedback. Don't expect to comprehend the universe instantly but know that you're comprehending it faster than you are understanding it in those words. Understanding and comprehension are not necessarily the same. The higher mind comprehends it already and therefore at some level you're in perfect comprehension of it. You would not be able to explain it. That doesn't mean that if laid forth in front of you, you won't know that this is correct because that is knowing. Now how can you know it is correct? Because everything they've done so far is incorrect against the laws of nature, which is creation. You do not split atoms. Your scientists have an incredible, stupid chart where you were going to name all these elements. So they named them from 1, hydrogen, to 91, uranium. They don't even leave a place for the new ones they find. This is how confident they were, they knew everything. So what happens when you come along with Trillium? Just throw it out? And there are others that have not even been isolated. So what do they do? Well, we will call them isotopes and leave them unnumbered. How can you do that? You've got a whole bunch of other isotopes that they decided to number. And now we're going to break it down. And we're going to go by atomic weights. So that's going to mean that, let's see, uranium is going to be what? 91 times as heavy, 250 times as heavy as one atom of hydrogen? Or what about carbon? That's what you are. That's what everything is. Every element is in carbon. So what do we do? We rewrite who is going to believe. We are getting some credibility. We are getting credibility. We are getting the word out. And what is coming from here is becoming credible. Because what they are doing is so incredible. Crappy way to run a universe isn't it? You're even getting some back up in the bizarre element so put this one around in your pipe so that you can smoke it when they ask you questions. In Iraq, they have a large Jewish population, quote unquote you. They call themselves Judaic. And what do they say about it? They say they're Iraqi. They don't have any trouble with the Iraqis. That is their home. The Iraqis quote, love us. It’s Israel they hate because they are false Jews. They do not even practice it according to the laws of Abraham. If you don't know what you're talking about, you cannot blame the world for its ignorance. How else would the answer Christ come than through the one group of people least suspected? That's the way the adversary works always, always without exception through deceit. If you can find the most unlikely in your mind group or person to present something of goodness or evil and reverse it, you'll probably have it. You see what they're calling the New World Order is the New World Government, the New World Monarchy, dictatorship under the United Nations which would unify and peace the world, wouldn't it? If they did what they say they're going to do. But what else have they ever done that they said they were going to do? Therefore you can almost immediately start putting your puzzle pieces together. They're going to wear blue berets, this military force. 
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You see, it never gets dull up to Oberli's house. Just today, to look at a gas tank required the Sheriff's Department, several firemen they couldn't find anything wrong and Miss Ekker if you just promise us we'll take this tank out of here we won't write you a citation. I don't take that tank out of there well you don't leave us any choice we'll have to write you a citation. So get busy writing. We'll take it up with the constitution. So we get to take it up with the judge first. But keep in mind it'll be the 24th of July. And probably we can get some postponement you know this is going to work into another Santa Barbara Savings case undoubtedly. They would even say this. Karen, please, Karen, keep all of this in your precious mind so you can share it because of the size of the tank. It's on skids. It’s a large tank. They would even work out something where by we could have a smaller tank. Don't want a smaller tank, we have this one. How about we just put 50 gallons in there and take out the other 3,000? No, that won't work. There is no way you're going to keep that big tank here. Why? It's painted, it's everything. It's very aesthetically pretty and if Mr. Horn would ever let us we'll put a fence around it. But we have a cease and desist from any digging. I don't know what they're going to do to the gophers. They keep digging holes in Mr. Horn's property. And no one can decide who has title to the property and who should and should not be making demands. Well, now that we're making more demands than Mr. Horn can keep up with, he's having a nervous breakdown, poor little thing. Ah so, but you never know where the cracks in the floor are, do you? Or who lies? Who lies? Oberli, I want you to keep this one in mind, because before you do too much blaming of Hornback, I want it noted that on the docket where it says papers and tapes sent to the attorney, is a clue. Were they. Did Horn really take the tape. Did Jason Brent? Did Hornback get hit. Unlikely isn't it. But there it is in black and white from Mr. Horn's office on the docket. Its a lovely case. It can go into infinity and undoubtedly shall do so. Meanwhile, ones who are able to dig into the law and the Constitution. I want to thank Rick for bringing to my attention what Al Monette would like to do through Freeman, different Freeman. would like to start a new nation, call it the new nation, USA. Sounds good, doesn't it? Just everybody sign up and we secede from this legislative United States that set itself up in Washington, D.C. The problem is you have to have constitutional boundaries to call yourself a nation. So what it ends up is a good idea, non-functional devices. You don't need a new nation, you need to take care of the one you have. I hear what they're saying. Let us get busy. Disclaim ownership of our persons. Regain our sovereignty. And this government is so far gone you can't salvage it. No, but your Constitution can be salvaged. That's what you’re talking about anyway. And if you come forth with a new name, you're not going to get off the first step. You don't need anything new. You need to get back what you have. I also want to acknowledge and thank Rick and whoever helped him with the package for survival. It's a beautifully done package in very short order and can be utilized and then fleshed out. We are limited in our human time as to what can be done. I can be anywhere giving assistance. Dharma cannot do it. Would anybody like to report Oberli how much we have done in less than two weeks. You ones mailing out all those expresses must know. You know in less than a week we put out what three double expresses and half a Journal. That's anywhere from eight to ten to twelve hours of typing. But it sure cuts it down on the accusations of plagiarism. She doesn't have time to look. By the way, John, there is no point in anyone thinking of going to get all the answers by refining up for Walter's book. Your main is utilizing diagrams from there, basically following the format because facts is facts and pigs is pigs and it's the truth. He's not going in order, he's going to wrap it up with a blast to the atomic system, probably at the tail end, because you're going to have to come into your acknowledgement of this other half of your beingness. Actually, it isn't even half, it's all. You're going to have to get off this physical matter kick. It is only registered on your senses, your physical senses. And therefore, can have no reality. But as an extension of God's thought, you are created, you are manifest. And as that one unit, you further manifest. And until you can understand it, you can get all the books you want. And all you will do is pay a lot of money for something that if you're just patient a little while, let it unfold in the segments put forth. Understand them. Don't just read it. Go to those diagrams. Those were given and I will tell you right now, they were given by Germain to Walter Russell. So they know what they're doing. And it's a time of blessing upon this world. You see, every so often, the water is tested, is man ready, is man ready. It doesn't matter a whit this time whether man is ready or not. The sort of going to take place, those who will come into understanding will do so, those who choose not to will face the consequences of that choice. Now I would get off of the soapbox and what would you like to ask of me? I know nobody asked me here in the first place. 
[Oberli] This is conversation time you can ask anything you want to.
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[John] I have a question. 
I was hearing. 
[John] Lao Russell of the Atomic Suicide. 
Yes. 
[John] Is uh Germane using some of that stuff? 
Yes absolutely that's Walter's stuff allow only there's been a gross misperception and this is why you have to be very careful very very careful what you get sucked into. Walter adored this woman and I am not lessening Lao Russell. But you see, once Walter, especially after he made his transition, she became the little queen bee in the middle of the groupies. And this is what happens when you are not very very careful. She would not even perceive it that way. But by the time that happened she was getting on into elderly years and she was tired also. But basically Lao did nothing. I'm sorry if this hurts some of your feelings. Lao was a beautiful woman. She was patient with Walter and she edited and helped organize. She was not gifted with information. She would not realize what needed to be in there any more than the neighbor coming in, other than what Walter would share with her. Man has not learned to protect the valued things and they get usurped incorrectly. The book is valid. Everything that Walter put into that book is technically correct. And it's extremely important information, extremely important. You see speakers receivers this holds truth down through the years through the eons of time. Walter understood the information coming through as it came through because he had to make the diagrams. Somebody had to make them for the first time. Dharma is not put in a position at this point of the unfolding and expression of the truth because there's no need to repeat and reinvent the wheel. But before you're done, she'll have to understand it the same as everyone else has to understand it. It will not be her privilege not to understand it. She's farther along the path now because she's writing it. So she understands what she’s writing. But she’s going to have to go through the same study section and session as you ones because I don't want her ahead. I can't have her ahead for two reasons. It's very dangerous for her and we need to have some sessions as this unfolds because herein going to lie the entire infrastructure of your Electric Universe. Because that's all there is. And if you want free energy and healing apparatus you're going to have to pull in that other portion, that other half that cycle, which is God. It has to be or you have nothing and you're going to have to bring it in to the circle, to the cycle, into the ring with the one experiencing. It’s at opposite poles. You can hook everything to anybody you want to and it will do absolutely zero unless you understand the fine-tuned frequency of the entire cycle. I mean any apparatus you want. You cannot override the mind. Only in the mind is a functioning blueprint of every cell in a body. And unless your apparatus is tuned to the mind with a capability of fine tuning to whatever you're
trying to accomplish, again split into a divided pair, you're not going to heal anything. So be patient, John. Yes, indeed, this is the scientific information from which the Creation functions. Next. 
[John] Does one get with teachers in this science class?
I believe Germain will do it himself. 
[John] I slept through the year, I didn't even draw. 
But you will need some scientific minds in the class. Not the least of which is to understand what is being told to you so that you can see the difference. There are so many theories. You see, you're working on a theory that there is a nucleus and an atom. No, there is a center which is gravity. Everything else is trying to get out of there. So it's held together, this little atom is held together through compression. And all these little things whatever you’re  going to say all these little things. It just is not like you think. And they are all trying to get away. They are not trying to get in there. Everything is trying to get away. And then once it's away, it's all trying to get back. And that's what makes for immortality, the reverting, the seed. You see, you represent the seed of the human species. You're not an ape, you're not a plant, you're not an oak tree. And when you physically die, the beingness comes back and folds within the seed. And this is your proof of God. No errors. When an acorn grows it comes out an oak tree every time. And everything in the universe is made in rings, multiples of, but rings. John could give me some backup support on this one. If you have a wire bearing electricity, it will go in spirals. It is traveling zips, do-dots, boopies, but it is only traveling on the outer surface of that wire. If in fact it were all going through that center core you would pulverize it, you would simply melt it, evaporate it. And it's only going one way. It doesn't go down there and turn around come back. There's not one you know, it is only traveling one direction period. Absolutely. No exceptions. You don't have two kinds of electricity, you have one kind of electricity. These are misconceptions and unfortunately very dangerous misconceptions because man goes in trying to split these atoms. And in fact when you do that you have created suicide for your planet. If something doesn't happen soon you have created murder for your planet. And nobody shows any signs of stopping this madness. Don't they know? Worse for you, yes they do. Your adversary knows. And they have gone right ahead and developed according to the proper rules and left you ones helpless with that which is established. 
[other speaker] Commander?
Yes.
[other speaker] I have a question that has been brought up a lot. If they destroy the world, then the humans, they don't have any place to go. Where’s the logic in that? 
Well if they destroy the world, they don't. But if they destroy the world through nuclear blast, they certainly do. It will clear.
[other speaker] Oh. 
They don't intend to use something that won't clear. They just intend to get rid of life and within a given period of time they can resurface. They already have their way off of here. 
[other speaker] Ok. So if they have destroyed most of life, who will they rule?
Oh they're going to keep plenty of you around for slaves.
[other speaker] Alright. [undecipherable]
But it's also one reason that you will be able to do some good project building. 
[other speaker] So that we can continue to work? It’s your own?
It depends on who you are. If you are of the undesirable minority groups, probably not. They will keep some for heavy labor. You have to face it. This world is one big bigoted place. You have to face it. The Anglo-Saxons, what you consider the white races, has come out of the lineage let us say England, the intent is to first get rid of all minorities. That would be any of your colored races. When it gets to the yellow race, they're not going to like it. They already don't like it. You are going to have war within five years. The elite have promised you that. The Bilderbergers just decided on it. I would tell you now that the probabilities are within months, not years. Because they must have everything operational by year 2000. They cannot wait to the end of the fifth year to have that war. There will be many between now and then. They're not building up and building up and building up for nothing. It's planned, it will happen. And there is so much corruption. We have just witnessed it. I get exasperated. Ones asks me what to do. I tell them what to do. And then they go do whatever someone else tells them to do. And I’m not offended. Plus I am angry when I see my ones taken advantage of. And in this instance, because all of you know her, I speak of Sherry. They treat her as if she is an imbecile. They lied to her. Oberli made many phone calls. The one who had placed her funds.
[Oberli] Excuse me, Commander. 
Yes, Oberli. 
[Oberli] I need to change the tape.
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