881213-2a  

12-3-23
Susan

MEETING TRANSCRIPT:  G. C. HATONN

BUSINESS, GOD, AND MORE BUSINESS

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[other speaker] Uncle? 
[other speaker] Ah, continue on. I like this.
[other speaker] I was a little. I mean, you can't get any worse can it? 
I think maybe I stand on your fourth, fifth amendment? 
[other speaker] Maybe fifth?
Fifth, whatever, one of them. You see none of this has to be bad for you. Bad and good are misnomers. What you consider bad may be perfectly all right in Malaysia. Malaysia. I don't know where that other place was. But I just said it.
[other speaker] Come on. I just knew we would go. 
Put it on your list. 
[other speaker] Mark it next.
[other speaker] Al, there is one. 
Thank you, Al. This is fun. And treat it that way. This is the greatest monopoly illusion game you ever got entangled in. And we don't have to do it like Donald Trump. We're going to give the world a format of business that's going to blow their minds. We're literally going to pay that young clerk who does your bookkeeping and can split your throat by one coffee break that comes at the wrong time. We're going to pay them enough to make it worth their while to do it properly. We will have incentive systems, not unions, that says you're going to, no matter what you do. We're going to have pay for production and value. That means a man in a wheelchair, so what? He's still got a mind and he's got hands. And if his hands don't work, he's still got a mind. And if his mind doesn't work, that's when you have charity, not welfare. You let man be productive, and you give him self-esteem, and you let him have a nice home in which to dwell. God is abundance. I get incensed that ones think poverty is godliness.
 
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God is abundance, friends. God is all there is. Would you offer yourself a hard seat for punishment? Because that is punishing God for having given you life. And when you offer me a seat when I show up, I hope it's soft. We have very sophisticated chairs aboard the craft. Would you give less to the image of God? Man has forgotten, and man has a lot of remembering to do. Man has been told these things to keep him humble, helpless and under control. It's called power. It's called power. That's why there is no judgment day as such, as you think of it. That's why there is no hell, as you think of it. Sometimes around here on a daily basis it's getting as bad as you want to get it. Those are creations of men to control you through fear. Fear is the most damaging one emotion. It creates hate, it creates stagnation, it terrorizes and it incapacitates you. You're afraid to succeed, you're afraid to fail. But whichever you set out to do, you will accomplish. It works either way. And when the Bible speaks of the fear of God, the merciless God, the revengeful vengeful God, No, no. Your Father is none of those. Your Father is just. Mind you, I did not say fair, because you would probably perceive that he's unfair. But your Source is total justice. What he reaps, he shall sow. That's wrong too. Now, I have John Lewis, my own punchline. 
[John] I think it's if you sow it, you reap it. 
That's what's wrong. Thank you, John. That's what's wrong with men. He's trying to reap. All the wondrous things, sown from all the damaging things. And he doesn't know what to do about it. A God-fearing man means respect for God. There are some terms that have been corrupted, well, almost all of your emotional terms, love has been corrupted. New Age has been corrupted. I'm talking about definition. Lord God, Lord Jesus, Lord Michael. Somebody referred to me as Lord Hatonn, I smile about that because that sounds very, very important, very royal. We don't work like that. The term L.O.R.D. means bringer of law, universal truth. That's what Lord Jesus did. He brought to you the way of truth. He brought the law of truth to earth. So you can go smile at yourself. Dharma’s name by her own name the bringer of life to her. The bringer of the love. Man wants to turn it into something mystical. Magic. Manifestation is not magic. It is exactly what you're supposed to be able to do. You have forgotten. For you came as the creators and you know what? You're going to do it again. You're going to create a factory that produces extruded metal parts. You're going to create a factory that produces compressed chips to burn in your cuckaluffin heaters, designed first by Nikola Tesla. Creators, pat yourself on the back, friends. You are universal creators and manifestors. And it will be grown right up through because as the masses see it is a better way they'll come right along. They followed Hitler because they thought it was a better way.

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Unfortunately, the masses do not think. They react. And yet not one of you has to know how television works to enjoy watching it. And have you noticed that they even color the old films now? Because man prefers it in color. How many men on the face of this earth do you think know how those waves of vibration which end up color get to your set? Who cares? You turn it on and you complain if the picture's not perfect. You'll give man a better way, he will follow. All the preaching in the world will not do it. He will throw you out. If it appears to be magic, he will throw you out, or burn you at a stake. We've done a little of that too. Some of us have had a lot of hot books. Everybody gets a little bit smarter, so you get a little bit more careful at how you present it to the world. You give them something they can relate to. You don't give them lectures at first. You give them something they can relate to. And you show them a better way. And eventually they will trample the opposition, get into the truth. More than that, the opposition will swing around first because there's greed in the world. Well, those ones will not make it. Not without a lot of attitude adjustments, because they're not going to like it. Their egos cannot stand it. Why does man have to have a 40 room mansion when he can only live in one room? Or seven Roll Royces when he can only drive one? It's fine that he has the best if his purposes are correct. And you see, when one's cannot really attain by greed, they'll probably try to take their leave. Or they too will see that it is a better way, and they'll pitch in and help you. But the masses, friends, will just come along because their souls are hungry for it. They're really tired of their children killing each other in the streets of Los Angeles where the innocent babies are being killed by stray bullets at Christmas time. Man's heart is bursting with it. Yes, there will be ones who effort at stopping you, but it will get lessened. Lessened and lessened. Pardon me while I move her a little bit. I forget her. And then when she comes back, she can't move. Everything's gone to death. She won't sleep. A man sick of violence, and yet he thrives on it. Television doesn't hurt the children. Oh my. The words in what music? What you're calling your devil? Heavy metal? It is worse than pure poison. The noise, the beat of the music is mesmerizing and you get the conscious mind set aside and the words are poured in like poison. These things will get worse and worse and worse. Prepare for it. Man is sick of it. He is clamoring to save his life and his soul and yet the darkness is not going down without fight. AIDS, homosexuality, and I'm talking about homosexual behavior I'm not talking about hormone imbalance. Do you know what that relationship is called in your legal books? Sodomy. Where do you think it comes from, friends? Do any of you remember Sodom and Gomorrah? 
[other speakers] It's in the Bible. It’s in the Bible.
That's what it means. These are the sequence signs to witness. Before the final destruction of those places, man degraded himself. And there was a separation from the light in those places and they brought destruction upon themselves. I am not here to judge good or bad, right or wrong, it just won't get you back to your Father God and yet everyone has the right of choice. If that's what you want to do, do it. But if you want to get back to Father God, I suggest you not do it. That isn't the road. That is not the way of the Master. And man is living a lie if he believes it. And all the temptation, all the temptations. You see, you can take a lie and you can get out there and talk about it enough and carry your placards, equal rights. I don't see many heterosexuals out there with a placard for equal rights. Who cares whether it's right or wrong and you cannot quote the Bible to these ones and say it's sinful. I don't know what sin is, I'm sorry. That is a word we don't have. There are many moral and ethical points that we consider universal law. However, I do not judge your morals. I don't care. It's none of my business. But if your actions interfere with the actions of your brother, you have no right to do it. As long as it effects only yourself, do whatever you like. But your brother has equal rights and if he doesn’t like it, you have no right to force him. And that's when perfection comes to a system, is when nothing is done by force. One simply act so that it does not offend or damage the brother or any of God’s creatures including the earth. Many of the creatures were put on this place, especially in these latter years for your survival. You are human, dense, musculared energies, houses. You need that to survive until you evolve enough until you find this, that you do not need them. But to go and kill of the animals for the sport will eventually cause you to have to reap that in your heart. Hunting, like anything else, with reverence for those animals that are sacrificed for your needs, is part of life. Just for the sport of watching it die, is unbelievably cruel. It does not make man great. It makes man very, very small. How much more can your war be, where you're shooting your brother? And yet, you have to have defense, don’t you? So always there is the growing up through, but you don't need 500,000 times the bullet to kill a man. He can only die once. But your economy cannot survive without the money and put it into these toys of war. And I honor your ones who will stand ready to defend you. There'll come a time when that's obsolete. Always your depressions have been altered unfortunately by war. This time it will be unacceptable. A war will not help your economy it will annihilate you. You have the ability already. Our efforts here are at getting the land that is arable. This is a rapidly growing little community, well chosen, has been preserved for this purpose and yet it is growing so rapidly that we really have to watch it. They want to build condominiums and commercial buildings right in the middle of the fields. There is an abundance of water, but not great abundance, enough to grow crops. And you're going to need it because it can be pumped instead of coming through the viaduct system. So we're negotiating for all the orchard land and all of the arable land that we can get under our control so that it will not be built improperly. Housing can be built most advantageously against mountain sides. In dome structures, if I could get you to build half of it into the mountain side I would do it for your protection. The winds will come at 150 miles an hour steady day after day. Everything you build will have to be built against that knowledge.
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[other speaker] They wanted to preempt it because he had not put it on the market, so they preempted that corporation. But they let it drop. They didn't know how to handle it. And so he made a new version, which he said is smaller and better, which I've never seen. So that’s the one we could still pick up if we wanted to. 
[Oberli] We are returned commander?  
Very good. So am I. I'm just scanning the household. I'm going to mention some names. 
[Oberli] okay 
What about your radio speaker your intercom? 
[other speaker] The lights? 
[Oberli] It's on a little bit, but not...
[other speaker] Not very loud. 
Well, don't make it too loud. 
[other speaker] Is Hatonn in the light? 
Yes, thank you. I'm trying to make sure we're all in the light. It's always fun to watch the ones who surveyed you. Day after day after day it's just boring and the minute we interrupt or interfere with their system, it takes them a while to even realize it. And it is fun to watch them. But we've gotten some very good workers, friends from the ones who practice the surveillance. And we accept that. And we have some that come with a little bit of dark fragments every now and then because they've become pretty sophisticated in their meditations and things. We’ll get what’s really important and that's to watch what cleans. We work with very clever enemies. When we talk about your gas extenders or what you call enhancers, performance enhancers. You're going to need that to a certain extent. Let me tell you what will happen to your fuel. You'll stand at all times, of course, with what goes on in the Middle East and the Persian Gulf to have that situation such that it gets shut down at some point. I foresee that there will be a little period of touch and go at peace but you're really having an incredible situation arising in Israel and the Palestinians. So that must always be kept uppermost. I don't judge one ethnic creed, whatever, from another. But there's a lot of unjust things that go on in your place. And you would call these ones heathens or whatever. Well, they have a right to their belief also. And basically, you cannot struggle with these ones such as the Palestinians, the Lebanese, the Syrians would be another good one. You see they have no fear of death, not really. When it comes right to the physical form, dying, they don't like it, but they fear the physical transition just the same as you ones. 
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You perceive that there is something better on the other side, but there is always the fear of the pain of the transition. That's what frightens you, the unknown. What kind of deterrent do you have in dealing with terrorists who feel very much like the Kamikaze pilots of the Japanese? It is a great honor to die and you go to something much more magnificent if you cast aside the earthly body. It was the same with the samurai. Somewhere man lost his touch with his God, that knowingness that you go elsewhere and you continue to grow. This is why you have great leaders coming forth upon the place at this time, the Sathya Sai Babas for instance coming from Babaji. Their thrust is not going to be the same as a Jesus Esu, or Hatonn, or a Germain. We have a world to build, a transition to build, and this turns out to be the gifted place. However, as I have said before, if it cannot be created and brought to fruition here, which I no longer have to use if, I can see that it will. I believe now more importantly and the real crux of the matter is that you can see that it will. For if you could not have been brought into enough vision to realize that which you're capable of bringing forth. This would have been transferred almost in total to Brazil. There will be the sample city, if you will. I don’t know how Jerusalem and Tehachapi, you probably have every letter of your alphabet in those two words. So don't try to compare apples and oranges. But this is where the examples, the leadership would come from. The difference in the education would teach their children how to feel worthwhile without drugs and without alcohol. We let them be productive in something they want to do and that's modern electronics. When they stop playing with the toy pistols, they're going to have a tendency to want to pick up the ray guns because that's the way it appears in Star Wars. Well, there are those conflicts out in the cosmos. I would not lie to you and tell you all is perfection in the universe. Of course it isn't. It isn't in yours. It's absurd to think that there are not other places in God’s universe. How totally ironically mystical of man on earth to think he's it. He's one of the lower its. That’s what it’s about. Much of the unmanageable energies in the cosmos, when they got to be too big a problem, you see, are put elsewhere. And just like the British did with Australia and the criminal element, a lot of very dark, unmanageable energies were brought to the prison of Earth. You can't get off here. You can send your spacecraft out there for a little way. Oh, precious brothers, you can't even make it past the moon. Unfortunately, until the transition, or you won't, you won't. A lot of the cosmos, a lot of your cosmic brothers don't want you out there. Until you grow up, you're dangerous. Your lights about have flickered out. A lot of that element of energy was brought to this place and now it will be able to grow up through that. And we're going to need all of the special new equipment that allows us to function if the Middle East shuts it down. You see what's happened is you have a glut of oil. You're not even producing very much in your domestic fields. You can see what they have done to Texas. Why would you even bother when on every barrel of oil imported the oil company is getting a subsidy of what is it, Oberli? 75 or $1.75? 
[Oberli] Well, it's more than that.
Well, it is today. 
[Oberli] Yes, several years ago it was $1.75. 
That's what every barrel of oil imported, doesn't matter, subsidy. 
[other speaker] To whom? 
To the oil companies. To the oil companies. They have no incentive for domestic production. And what they can do when the price of oil is down and Big Brother creates some laws, they withdraw their research and development. The one who controls your energy source controls the world basically. That's money and fuel. That gives you electricity and motivation, mobility. 
[other speaker] What about all these oil wells down here in Bakersfield? 
Oh, they're pumping, but they're just pumping. 
[other speaker] They've got oil refineries too, you know. 
Oh yes, and you're having domestic production, but they're not increasing it.
[other speaker] No, well a lot of them are shut off, that weren't shut off with all that. They're not working now. 
[other speaker] Okay. 
There is more oil stored than you can imagine. 
[other speaker] Do you want a discourse on Canadian oil at this point? 
I would like that, yes. I like sharing. 
[other speaker] What's the story? 
[other speaker] All right. This relates to Jake Purcell. One of the pumps of this inventor, Purcell, is a so-called downhole pump for, if you think in terms of light oil, by the oil we have around here, viscosity being quite light. As you know in Bakersfield, however, you've got some oil that's just this side of tar and viscosity. This pump can pump that without any problem. This pump can also pump some of the, especially wells in borderline areas, and I'll explain by meaning to that, such as in Canada. There is light oil in Canada, but there is also vast amounts of heavy oil, and oil that's under 2,000 feet of frozen tundra. As a matter of fact, one of the largest corporations in the world, on the basis of Jake's pump, made a survey. Took him several months and Jake didn't know what they were doing. When they came back, they had a stack of papers that big. And the bottom line was that Canada has deposits seven times that of the Arabs, but of this kind of oil. And Jake's pump is the only pump that can handle that oil in all ramifications because if it sands in, the current pumps, for instance, made by the REDA, R-E-D-A people, are destroyed immediately. Now we're talking pumps that cost $60,000 to $200,000 a piece, cost $50,000 to put in and take out, so we're talking big money. This pump doesn't care if it sees sand up to a certain size. It doesn't care if it's looking at first oil and then gas or then water. It'll pump it all without any hesitation. So the consequence is, I'm not permitted to mention the name of this corporation, but you can almost guess it. It's a multi, multi-billion dollar worldwide corporation with headquarters in Greenwich, England. Got it? 
[other speaker] No, we didn't know that at all. 
[other speaker] They have worked with the Canadian government. The Canadian government is so excited that they're ready to put up 70% of the money to get this thing started. The only problem at this point in time is that this big corporation, instead of a joint venture, which they agreed upon as a preliminary. They now see the tremendous capability of this thing just in Canadian oil alone. They now want to buy Jake out and Jake says, no sir, I won't do it. So that's one of the things I wanted to present. We have an opportunity here to step into this breach and do it. 
[other speaker] Could Hatonn protect us? 
[other speaker] Say again? 
Yes. 
[other speaker] Could Hatonn protect us? 
I already have. 
[other speaker] I will say that Jake has got, he's dealing in pumps and turbines and I'm not talking just his down hole pumps. Yes and he doesn't even know how far he's going. 
[other speaker] That's right. 
You see at some point we will use that technology of the bladeless pump. To pump electricity. 
[other speaker] That's right. 
And turbines. In a sense it's reversible. 
Well yes, but I'm still talking about the flinging off.
[other speaker] Geothermal. He's had them in the ground for geothermal purposes. He's got a new one being started up in Nevada. He had a multi-million dollar contract with the Navy out of Fallon, Nevada, for the naval air station up there, when his company was taken over by the mafia and threw him out and they couldn't handle it, so the whole thing was dropped. Anyhow, that's the nature of this pump and that's the Canadian oil story. I'm off. 
Well, you're not off and I'm glad that you have brought it up. Jake is a major, major player. He will be. He doesn't know it yet, but he senses it. But he must be careful. Jake has a negative attitude that can get him killed, dead. He has a bit of an ego, but more than that he wants to share and show. You know, let's put 50% sand in this fuel and, or this crude oil and let you feel it and watch me pump it. And ones steal information and because Nikola Tesla designed it originally, it's very hard to have patents. But you see, most of the greed of the big boys prevents them even utilizing something like this. So much obsolescence is built in of necessity for almost everything. That if you have a good workable product, the competition will keep you out of the market. Dharma about to have a breakdown. Larry, do you remember in the middle of the night calling back and forth about the pulse cell pump is an artificial heart. 
[other speaker] Yes, yes I do. It's been done now. 
[other speaker] Has it really? 
And she was incensed. It was done very near San Diego. This is a very small thing. If you recall, the two of you were working on that.
[other speaker] Yep. 
As was Paul. And back and forth about whether or not you need a pulse and this sort of thing.
[other speaker] Yep. 
Well, it's been done. 
[other speaker] That's fascinating because I used to contemplate..
[other speaker]I read about it. I must have read about it. The thing I was concerned about was, do we need a... Our heart goes like this, you know, pump, pump, pump. Do we need that? Can we stand the steady pressure? And by heavens, I did read about it. 
Yes.
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