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Susan

MEETING TRANSCRIPT:  G. C. HATONN

MEMORIES FROM ANOTHER TIME AWAKENED

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[Oberli] We're back on the air. 
There very good. Just go ahead and discuss or something for just a second. 
[Oberli] All right.  Somebody discuss.
[other speaker] We're doing it unique to hearing. We are meditating, We're not thinking it. 
[other speaker] Answering Wally’s question.  
Somebody get the chair please and put it right over here to my left. Get it Randall. 
[Randall] All right. 
I want you to sit in it, please. We are going to have to answer some of Wally's questions, and I'm not going to do it. I want you to face me, please. 
[Randall] All right.
I have to get my eyes open. I want you to press on my hand. Wake up Dharma. Let us just hold on a minute. I want you to press on my hand.  Sit. Sit up. Just breathe easy. You are fine. Just breathe easy and go deeper and deeper within yourself, please. We're going to go back and look at some things. You don't mind that, do you, Randall? You can answer me. 
[Randall] No.
Good. Mr. Gentleman wants to know about what our craft looked like. I believe we better just take it back a little bit. Let's play around a little bit. If everybody in this room will just bear with us a minute. There will be one specific time of which you are on board, one of our craft that will stick out more in your memory than other times. I'm going to count from one to three. And when I reach three, I want you to be in the scene. One, moving toward the scene. Two, three, stop, you're there, tell me where you are. Don't think about it, tell me where you are. Are you inside or outside? 
[Randall] I can't tell. 
Why? What do you see? 
[Randall] I see energy. 
You see energy. That means you're outside. Is it light or dark? 
[Randall] It's light. 
Are you alone or are you with someone? Look around you. Just pause and look around you. Are you alone? 
[Randall] I'm alone. 
What are you doing?
[Randall] I fell like I'm suspended. 
Right. You see what happens in a group like this? You've been around so many times that most often you do not have a spacecraft. So when ones start asking you questions, you don't know what to answer. And most of the time at night you're coming in to a mother craft or at least a command ship. And you don't need the shuttlecraft. So you see what kind of a dilemma you're faced with when people ask you questions. We're going to go, Randall, to another time. I want you to clear your mind. Just clear it away. Wipe the scene away and don't try to think about anything. Just relax for a second and breathe easy and you'll go back deeper and deeper as you easily breathe. This time I'm going to count from five down to one, and we're going to go back into a time when you're probably a child, when you first encountered a craft on this earth, you as an earth being. 5. Going back 4. Moving on back. Let your mind go, let it float 3. You're moving on back you're going into your childhood now 2. Moving on back and the picture is beginning to form. One, you're there. Where are you? Tell me where you are, inside or outside? 
[Randall] I'm outside. 
Is it daylight or dark? 
[Randall] It's daylight. 
Look around you. Are you alone? 
[Randall] Yes. 
What are you doing? 
[Randall] I'm looking at the green, something green.
Something green? 
[Randall] Grass. Trees. 
Trees. I'm green grass. Describe it. How old are you? 
[Randall] Must be 7. 
Then say it. 7
[Randall] 7.
What are you doing? Go within the scene. Just be in the scene. What is happening? Where are you? Are you in a meadow? Are you by the ocean with trees and a meadow that comes to the ocean? What are you doing there? 
[Randall] It's like a yard. The grass is cut and the trees are on the far side of it.
Why would you be there? 
[Randall] I think I live there. 
Where is it? What comes to mind first? No matter how silly it is, don't hesitate to answer me. 
[Randall] I think it's in Walla Walla, Washington, where I used to live. 
Why are you out there? I told you to go back to the first time you saw a spacecraft. That must be why you're out there. Tell me about it. 
[Randall] No one knows I'm out there. I was just out there to see what was there. 
And what did you see that was there? Let it come to your mind.
[Randall] I see a craft. 
Sure you do. Tell me about it. 
[Randall] It's not necessarily a noble craft. It has more of a point on it. 
Describe it. 
[Randall] It has a dome over it with round windows. 
Are you frightened? 
[Randall] No.
Why? 
[Randall] Because I've seen it before. 
Oh, so? When I told you to go to the first time you saw it. What does that say to you, Randall? 
[Randall] That I've seen them before. 
Where have you seen them before? 
[Randall] In another dimension where I used to be. 
You liked it there? 
[Randall] Yes. 
Why did you come here? 
[Randall] To bring that here. 
Oh, so. Did you have an opportunity to meet with anyone on that ship? [Randall] I don't think so physically. 
But you communicated, did you? 
[Randall] Yes. 
Tell me about that. 
Randall] It felt soothing and a reminder that it was okay and that the things in my mind that I see were to be held and not tucked away. Always held and tucked away. Do you ones in this room see what has  happened with you ones? All the time you have been told it has to be held and tucked away. All of you have been going through this all of your life. Tell me about that other dimension. Where did you come from Randall?  First off, right off, just answer me. 
[Randall] It's light. I mean I want to say Pleiades because that's the...
That's where you came from. That's a good place to mention. You ones, as you first start going back and searching like this where I can question you, always are wondering, if you thought it up, always the first response in a state of relaxation like this would be your correct one. And if it is a nothingness, you know you have slipped into the period of time where there was nothingness. Or simple astral beauty around you. Don't let it worry you. If you don't have an answer, you don't have an answer. If I ask for a specific answer that I know has occurred, I expect you to answer me. Just breathe easy and let's let the telephone call go. Put it on pause. Well, it's for me. Hello? 
[Oberli] It's OK. We can continue.  
All right, Randall. Just briefly, so that we don't take all day here, we'll play this game with each one of you as you ones want to play it. But this morning we need a description of one of the Pleiades shuttlecraft that would house maybe a crew of 15, one basically, I would say, 40 to 50 feet in diameter with maybe 3 levels plus a dome. I'm going to count because I want you to come back almost to present.
So I'm going to count from one up back through to four. And I want you to be standing outside of a craft which I have just basically described to you.
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There are many forms. You're going to tell me what it is. You are no longer seven. Clear that from your mind. One, you are moving forward. Two, you are moving toward the present time where you can analyze, three, and four, you are standing outside this craft, looking at it. What do you see? 
[Randall] Metal, gray, silverish. 
All right. I want you just to describe this onto this tape. I will keep asking you questions. How old are you? About? Are you? 
[Randall] I think I'm a few years younger than I am now. 
All right. This is going to be a good, vivid description, friends, of a craft which we will consider a shuttle craft, although it would have more energies on it than the ones, for instance, that Asket would come to Vilimar in. She would probably only come with like two to three energies. We need a little bit bigger craft to be utilized in Sipapu. This is why I've taken him to one that is larger in perception, with a few more details in it than a simple shuttle craft that functions as a drone from a command ship. Give me a generalized description, please, of the outside shape, starting at the ground level. Is it resting on the ground or is it hovering?
[Randall] It's on the ground. 
How is it on the ground? 
[Randall] It has a beak. 
Describe beak a little bit, please. 
[Randall] It's kind of like a... it's to raise it up just off the ground so the ship's not sitting directly onto the ground. 
Do those appear to be soft or hard, shiny or dull? 
[Randall] They're dark in color. 
Dark in color. Can you perceive what they are made of? 
[Randall] It feels like a cold charcoal, dark metal, a heavier, stronger metal that would retract back into the ship. 
Oh, now you say so they're extended.
[Randall] Yes. 
What kind of openings or closures do they extend from? Do they become part of the ship or do they go within and it has a little door or something? Can you describe that for me please? 
[Randall] They retract back up into the ship and the base of the plate is part of the ship on the base on the bottom. 
Is this a telescoping mechanism or a framework? 
[Randall]It protrudes like a telescope and it can be moved at different levels to fit the ground. 
Oh, automatic levelers. Boy, these cats are really ahead of you. All right, give me just a general description looking at it. Just stand off there a minute and look at it from top to bottom. And starting at the bottom, tell me what it looks like all the way to the top in generalities. 
[Randall] There's a gentle slope coming up from the bottom until it meets the largest diameter. 
Would this be like a frying pan or a cup and saucer or a wok? The Chinese call them frying pans. 
[Randall] More like a wok. And at the edge of the lip of the wok, if you want to use that, there's a structured lighting system. 
Tell us a little of it.
[Randall] It appears that there is direct beam lighting and then there is also flash, the ability for flashing lights at different frequencies or different colors all around the ship. I believe there are some on the bottom also. 
Look very carefully at the bottom. Focus right in on the very bottom. Describe what you see. Whether it is smooth doorways, sliding base, solid base, lights, beams whatever hits you. 
[Randall] It appears to be a softer... it's a doorway of some kind. But the metal or the material it's made out of is soft, kind of transparent. 
Do you see any kind of a beam system or if…
[Randall] That would be a beam system. 
I see. 
[Randall] That's why it feels transparent. 
Let's go on back to the rim, where the lights are. What do you perceive this to be? What color is it? The overall metallic surface. [Randall] Its silver, it’s a mixed material of metals, and almost living elements. Molecules placed together for stability and for... 
I want you to walk over to it now in your mind and touch it, run your hand over it. 
[Randall] I can put my hand on it or in it. 
Would you like to repeat that? 
[Randall] I can put my hand on it and then I can also put my hand through it.
Oh, really? Tell me about that, Randall. How do you suppose that happens? 
[Randall] Because of the living elements and the frequency rate that they are. It all depends upon how I hold my consciousness. 
Doesn't strike you funny that you might be able to put your hand through it? 
[Randall] Not at all. 
Anybody in this room find that a little bit interesting? 
[other speaker] Very much so. 
Do you see how much you've stepped down? How much you've got to come to your memory? What does it feel like? Don't put your hand through it. Rub it across the surface. 
[Randall] Very soft. Shiny. It's not cold. It's just a... Temperature-wise it would be like a comfortable feeling, like a shiny car almost, well waxed. 
And yet you say it's living. Why do you say that? What do you feel when you touch it what makes you feel like it's living. 
[Randall] I feel the higher dimensions, the love, the care, that which holds it in place. I feel that.
Keep going up the ship now. Keep going with your general description. [Randall] It feels like I'm kind of standing in front of the ship, if you could determine the front almost. 
Well you can determine the front. So look at it again. And why do you think you're in front of it? Look at it very carefully. What is it doing that would make you think you're in front of it? Are you telling me that it is a round sphere of some kind? 
[Randall] Yes. 
That would look front and back the same? 
[Randall] Yes. 
Except for some guide that would tell you where you are. You think you're in front of it. Why do you think you're in front of it?
[Randall] I'm over to the side a little bit, almost to the front of it. 
Tell me what's in the front of it. What is about the ship, if it's round, that makes you think you're in front of it, or toward the front? 
[Randall] The lights. The lights. The way they're shaped for forward movement. 
Are any of the lights on, or is it just sitting there? 
[Randall] I don't think they're on now, but I can see them when they're on. 
What were you doing? Do you suppose that there's just a craft sitting there in front of you? Just breathe easy and keep at your level. You keep trying to come back into consciousness and think, and I don't want you thinking I want you to tell me what you see. No thinking. No conscious thinking. We're going to separate away from it. Just go deeper and deeper. Just take a good deep breath. Let's go down. You're standing there in front of it. Look around you and see what in the world you're doing there. Why would there be a craft in front of you, sitting on the ground on his pods, with its lights off? Look around your area. What else do you see? Turn around. Look at it.
[Randall] It’s like I came out of a building. The craft is there and I'm going to go on board the craft. 
Are you on Earth or elsewhere? 
[Randall] It doesn't feel like Earth. 
So you have a parked craft. 
[Randall] Yes.
What are you going to do when you get on it? What is your hope? Who are you?
[Randall] I'm an assistant moving it to its next location. I don't know how. 
Well, we'll find out in just a minute. Finish describing the craft. About what size at its widest point? 
[Randall] It's 50 feet. 
Good. 
How tall?
[Randall] 20 some feet high? I'm not sure. 
In other words, two or three floors if you were judging by floors.
[Randall] Yes. 
Is that what... All right, tell me about the shape of the top as you move on up. I want to know about any viewports. 
[Randall] The top is a clear dome. 
Clear dome on top. 
[Randall] And there are transparent ports or viewing areas that can either come into view or be opened to see out on the level below the dome. 
Tell me about that, Randall. Obviously they would not be coming into view if they were in view. What do you mean by that? 
[Randall] The living substance that makes up the craft becomes clear to be able to see through it. 
Oh, so. Are you telling me you have a basically smooth skin? That if you did not know or did not proceed closely, you would have nothing really visible? If you were to feel it, for instance, with your hands rather than your eyes? 
[Randall] Yes. 
I see. Does it have a door somewhere? Obviously you've got to get in it somewhere. How do you get in it? 
[Randall] Door is in the middle between the legs just this side of the beam.
Toward the underneath? 
[Randall] Yes. 
And what does it do? How does it function, please? 
[Randall] It folds out and creates a ramp or stairway. It folds down from the lip or the edge of the craft tall enough to walk up. 
Right. We're going to walk through some maneuvers now. I want you just to go on within the scene. You've done this a thousand times, friend. You've transported those ships thousands of times. What are you wearing?
[Randall] It's a tight-fitting silver suit of some kind.  
I saw. I want you to go aboard. Tell me when you get aboard. 
[Randall] I feel I'm on board but it's dark. 
Then let's get some lights on and I want you to describe it. You have just come on board and I want you to walk through the next steps. I want you to look very carefully around because you're going to describe this to someone who is not viewing it. And I want you to take it. I want you to walk through that door and do whatever you would do in preparation to get that machine on the way.
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[Randall] When I walk through the door, there's a panel on the right side that's facing the center of the ship and the stairways are behind me. I push the buttons to close the door, to close the stairways. It's a red button. 
All right. 
[Randall] I put the lights and make the ship aware that I'm present and the other functions at all the other levels. 
You make them aware. What do you do? 
[Randall] Let them know my frequency rate and my being, who I am, and they respond. 
All right. It may sound a little far-fetched. That's exactly right.
Go on. So you've acknowledged entry and they have acknowledged your entry, and I say they, you have gotten a response from your thought patterns, all right? What is activated now? Let us describe the setting as we go along, because we’re going to do a setting, a prop, for motion picture. We will not go all the way through all the details because so much is thought-wave that it's hard to describe in many instances what it is you're looking at or feeling. There are very definitely buttons and things. We call them sensors. Now, I will have to interrupt his story by saying that you see he's very advanced. If you had a less advanced energy going aboard, there would be more physical maneuvering. If you have a more etheric energy going aboard, and he can do that too, but we're not dealing with him doing that because I’ve got to know what’s in that ship for one that he would notice. You see, what I would notice in a ship versus what he would notice in a ship versus what you would notice in a ship are completely different and alien things. It is like going through your living room each morning, every morning of your life, you will not notice what you don't use. You might if something is out of place. You don’t pay attention to what you don’t utilize.  So I have to back him up to a physical level where he can come in and with his, let us say, hand. I would not have a hand. Everything would be done by energy projection. But he has obviously gone in and done something with a red button. So he has placed his hand on it or something. Tell me about the color configurations as the door closes. Look at the lights there on the panel and tell me what happens. So that you know the door is up, for instance, and see what happens. 
[Randall] It's like a rainbow panel. 
All right. And which lights function? You're in it. Turn around and look at it. You're in it and the door is shutting. Now when the door shuts... 
[Randall] The lights go off. 
All right. How do you know it's sealed? 
[Randall] It's just confirmed to me. 
All right. Look carefully and see if there's a readout of some kind.
[Randall] There's a printed readout above the panel confirming it's closed. 
All right. Let's move. Now, we said that is to the right. Stand there while you're looking at that panel and move to your left now. Just generally describe what's in that room. Are you in the command room? [Randall] No.
Where are you? 
[Randall] I'm in the lower level. 
The lower level, which is what? 
[Randall] It holds storage, storage compartments, some facilities for research. It has places to put things, some screens, and also what appears to be a panel, or not a panel but a section that if you were in the lower level you could operate the ship from there also. 
All right, you ones that are on this ship with us. When he leaves something out, I want you to tell me what it is. Are there work areas, desks, chairs, what?
[Randall] Most of it is work area. Feels like maintenance type area. Chairs. 
What kind of chairs? 
[Randall] They're swivel chairs attached to the floor. 
On legs or heads or headstones? 
[Randall] One stand. 
One stand. 
[Randall] Sits on one stand, attached to the floor. It's over... it would be like a large overstuffed sports car type chair. 
All right. And when you say maintenance, do you mean for computer type maintenance or what?
[Randall] It would be for all kinds of maintenance. It looks like there's even places for like medical facilities. When I say maintenance, I mean like physical maintenance, ship maintenance, material maintenance of a lesser density, electronic. 
This would be for crew? 
[Randall] This would be for crew. 
All right. Let's go on. Do you have lifts in this place or do you use stairs? What do you do? How do you get to the next level? Let's go on to the next level, 
[Randall] I just entered the next level, I don't know. There must be something that you would go with your physical body. 
Well, Mr. Gentleman is going to have to draw a picture of it. So if you were more physical, how would you have gotten there? 
[Randall] I would have gone up a... it's almost like a cylinder you go through to get up to the next. But it's a stair. It's stairs. 
All right. 
[Randall] And it goes all the way up through this ship to the other floors also. 
[other speaker] Circular helix, stairway?
You can respond to him, Randall. They will ask you questions too, just... Yes. 
[Randall] It's more of a tube like you would see in like a submarine, where they go from one floor to another by almost like a ladder.
[other speaker] Yeah. 
[Randall] That's what it feels like. I think there's an electronic lift in there though also. 
But you athletic ones, you know, you'll go skipping a bit. A good opportunity to establish now where you are, What kind of density are you utilizing about you? 
[Randall] In the atmosphere?
Yes. 
[Randall] It feels like I'm in the earth density. 
Earth density, all right. Did you feel the same outside the craft as in? 
[Randall] No. 
It was lighter outside or heavier? 
[Randall] It's more refined inside the ship. 
All right. That's fine, because that won't matter. We need to know now what this second level looks like. What is this floor utilized for? 
[Randall] Combination. There's a central, circular, like lounge area, seating area in the middle and I always see some type of a beam going through there in the middle of the ship. It goes down through the middle of the ship from the command station up above. 
So you're still not to the command floor? 
[Randall] No. 
All right. 
[Randall] There's sleeping quarters on the second floor, social type area for those that eat. There’s all that is there. They store a lot of that extra items below on the first floor. But in preparation or during gatherings, there's places to do that up on that floor. 
How many chairs would you say around or couches or whatever that would seat how many, just looking around it? 
[Randall] I would say in a circular there's walkways between some of them, but 15, 18. 
Very good. Same kind of chairs or different? 
[Randall] No, they are multiple chairs. They are square until you sit in them and then they fit your body.
Ah, very clever. Comfortable chairs, huh? 
[Randall] Uh-huh. 
Well, you're sitting around there. 
[Randall] Better than this one. 
Now, you have been sitting around there before. 
Randall] Uh-huh.
And you're kind of sitting around there in the middle. What happens to that floor? 
[Randall] In the middle?
Well, what are you looking at? I'm trying to establish what it is. [Randall] It's part of a beam system. Picture? Beam system. 
Well, I see a beam system, but I see something else. What happens to that floor? So you're in there. 
[Randall] You can see through it. 
Ah, so. Pretty good visibility. 
[Randall] It seems like you can see through it, but the floor below it doesn't interrupt it.
Interesting. Now I don't know how he's going to do that. I truly do not know how he's going to do that.
[Randall]Well, if the beam that goes through all the floors from the top to the bottom of the craft, then that would be the part that he would see through. 
So this is mostly a living area? 
[Randall] Yes. 
You said something very interesting. For those who need to eat, there's place to eat. Are you telling me that you don't need to, or what? 
[Randall] That's correct.
But you've been at Eskers too long. 
[Randall] I eat a lot here. 
All right, let's go on up to the command. This is a lounge room. Let me fill in. This is a lounge room. There are very many viewing screens. Also, the portals that he has spoken of can be activated so that they are also transparent. As you move into the air and you wish, the floor does become one transparent viewing area, very much like, what would we say, Randall, a boat that has an invisible bottom to watch the fish or something?
[Randall] A glass-bottom boat. 
Yes. And the chairs are arranged in such a way that they will also swivel and you get a pretty good panoramic view, both from the floor or you can concentrate on a given screen. The screens, I would guess, you would call them, pull down out of the upper floor. They just curve out. I don't know.
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