881031-1 

11-7-23
Susan

MEETING TRANSCRIPTION:  G. C. HATONN AND GRANDFATHER

IMPORTANT MESSAGES

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[Oberli] This is October 31st, 1988. Greetings, Commander. 
Good morning. I’m going to wire over all your circuit breakers open.
I can talk farther and farther away. I am Hatonn, I come in light. On this I believe is All Saints Day and all of you are trying to get all of them crammed in. We’re working but needs some discipline. But it would be giving up. I wanted to remove Dharma. I will take this up with her. She perceives that my writings are too harsh. She perceived grandfather's writings were too harsh. So she has that prerogative. She can turn us both off. But I do not believe the rest of you wish us to be turned off. So we reason with her. We reason gently with her. Get out there or I'm going to kick your fanny from here to the moon. Let's not play these silly, ridiculous games. We're moving into a world change, not a morning of tea and crumpets. But I don't like it that way, she says. Well, I apologize for that. Then I remind her she just doesn't remember what she agreed to, which is true of all of you. But it's coming into your knowledge and it's great, great mammoth job. So it causes confusion. You're being pulled by energies to receive of you all of them. You cannot quite come into your own confidence to pick up what you're hearing to go with it. And quite frankly I got my hand slapped and one or two of my jobs removed. So when you feel that these commanders are not busy, forget it. And we have a very severe discipline system. We are extremely busy and commanders cannot fragment as the higher energies. They can fragment, yes, but not the same as. There is this great physical concentration. We're dealing with energies such as myself that have to transport entire fleets by thought power alone.  There are some things we do not break our concentration for, a fragment, under any circumstances. And yet when we are called by you ones, we are required to respond or send someone, which causes great confusion, especially in the early stages of receiving. So I've witnessed here what happens. And we will try to set it straight. I want all of you to know in this room, you are nucleus of building of a new city. At this point it is business. Business proposals, business writings, getting business in total order so that when funding does arrive it can roll. That does not mean Randall has to know anything about geophysical changes or Soltec
In general. You ones were chosen as receivers because you don’t know anything about it.  You don't need to know anything about it. These ones have receivers and which ones will become very, very active in your area. You are forming a friendship bond with these commanders so that when they need to bring forth messages it will come more as brother to brother. You don't have to know one thing about it. It helps them if you know NO thing about it. Pay attention to your news because they would want to balance, and this goes for you, Randall, who prefers not to watch television at all. You're not going to learn very much, but neither are you going to hide from it, especially if you accept of the receiving from Soltec. Because it is very important within this very group working in this community, what geophysical changes are taking place and how they're coming into your attention. What are they telling you about it? You don't need to go out and train the world in geophysics. There are many out there who are experts at it. Why would you need to bother? You already have the talent and they don't have that talent that you carry. But we do need to relieve this receiver, and you ones will enjoy when you have your quiet gatherings, and we can participate in this manner, sharing one with another. I want you ones to experience receiving verbally. The best way to do that is pick a brother like Korton and Alan and go and practice. And then you can ponder in your break, did I say that or did he? Korton is in total command of all communication systems. That will bring in thousands of fragments from your place. He does not wish, Alan, because you're next on the list if I can get Dharma’s fingers writing again. But she gets overwhelmed too. These ones are petitioning and had she stayed with it longer, it would have been made very clear. These are what you would call brotherhood relationships that you're forming here. So that when things begin to happen there is immediate reception. What they are asking for is a circuit that is always available to them. That when you feel of Soltec, that circuit's open. Always open because he will need of your attention instantly, not through Germaine or Michael or me or anyone, else I will have to go back to Dharma receiving of them, period.
They usually will be brief. What you will enjoy are the meetings that you will be having when these are simply open for general discussion.
[phone rings] If that is Lorena, I do not need a meeting today. Postpone anything, I do not need a meeting today. 
8:02
I wanted grandfather tape and I didn't want to distract to go to Randell. 
[other speaker] Are we good? 
Well, we've already talked it to Randall. We'll just go on. We can talk about it in his absence. You ones must balance what is happening and what is coming. When Soltech for instance requests, and maybe we'll ask Randall to read this later because you see the commanders come with formal petition. They're not asking for your full time 100% attention to them. They don't even want it for heaven's sakes. Don't do that to them. They have thousands that they're fragmenting to and I don't think you want them off duty while you commune about a volcano eruption. When they have time and we have gatherings they will arrange to spend time either in fragmented form to converse with us because at some point we need like an open telephone receiver that carries the words and the tones, etc. Some of these brothers must function in your atmosphere in this energy form to be present exactly like this. For some of these ones will be the ones that come to work with you. You're in the communications center, for instance. You're the most critical for protection of geophysical changes right here. Soltec, Korton, Kitta, the ones working in communications and navigation need a sounding board here, a receiving system here, but you need know nothing of it. But as ones who do are pulled into the area and the business element of it grows, you will have formed a bond where these ones can transact with you. It doesn't mean go lie and try to receive from them all day. That disrupts them. Pick out a time of day when you're not busy and ask if they're not busy. Allow them to come for a few minutes. Sometimes if they're not busy, you may get 20 pages of writing. Honor that. Sometimes they may wish to just come and touch to test your circuit, get in attunement, and practice for that day is done. That's what you do in the beginning. For you will not be trained for Dharma's job, which is almost full-time, 24-hour receiving of many, many, many energies, most especially mine. I have to have her at my command and I did not get through and she is incorrect. She turned me off. She didn't want to hear any more of it. Dear son, she will not turn off. Had I chosen to come as I thought, she would not have turned me off. Just pause it, brother. 
[Oberli] I suspect he hasn't. 
Oh, all right. There. She will never turn Grandfather off because she knows Grandfather will simply turn her off. We've done it before. So when he says, Dharma, dear little beagle, sit down and pick up your feather, I have something to say, she has great choice. She can either get the recorder or she can get the feather. Or he'll put her flat on her back. He's done it. Anytime he pleases. You ones don't feel worthy of receiving and the moment that the discipline gets a little hard she's afraid everybody in the world is going to receive it as mother being ungrateful. She should not flatter herself that much. You see, you all have to give up your ego. She does not have control of this program. She relinquish that. That’s what you get when you agree to participate was relinquish the ego that says I'm going to have my feelings hurt I don't like you making the choices for me. We will never make your choices for you, we will make it so unbearably un-disagreeable that you'll make the right choice. So now while it is quiet I will tell you because grandfather will mention it. I don't want a meeting today. You see I was not contacted. You and Doris decided that Lorena could bring this person. And I probably noted it. I don't want to disallow anything that you ones wanted me. 14:26
But maybe this is a good place to start. We have one who wants to come who is read Sipapu and wants desperately to participate. She's a screenwriter and Lorena is sure her husband has some place somewhere sometime somehow. And they would come take 2 hours of Hatonn's time when we're trying to build a world. And you ones have not yet reached the point of saying no, no, no. That will be up to Wally Gentleman who writes that screen play and we will tell him who it is. And if it is she, wonderful! She and Mr. Gentleman can work it out. Or she can work it out with Mr. Spielberg or Mr. Lucas or whoever is going to do it. And don't jump to conclusions. There’s Mr. Howard, there’s Shirley MacLaine. I can name you all 400 excellent screenwriters. So if she does not write the screenplay, she wants to know what else she can do. I can only tell her what she cannot do. And that is take the time of this business group to come into her understanding. All ones who get this far have excellent, excellent spiritual guides. Something made you even interested in getting here. And the first tendency, and this was with Dharma and Oberli, shut off those guides who have gotten you this far in your life span and let's pick up the new commanders and let's pick up Germaine and let's pick up Michael. No. Absolutely under no circumstances, no. You still go to your personal guide first and ask his permission quite frankly for the others to come forth. What you're going to find is the ones who come forth are the Germaines and the Michaels. They are your guides. You started high on the hog. That's why you can't find all those other probably you would consider them insignificant guides. Dharma’s is Aphis, Daniel, and Mayama, the rest are God. Sanatkamora and Sananda. Then comes all the rest of us, either in our fourth dimensional form or the archangelic realm. You have very, very exceptional, top of the line guides. The reason that these commanders petition is because they know the structure and they are truly asking of your guide’s permission to utilize a circuit. They know of your mission. You don't have time for them. They know that. And if you usurp the time from the Germaines and the Michaels, they will have to relinquish, period. They know that. They know that. And they will instantly withdraw if it causes encroachment on one iota of this program for pressure. And I don't want to do that because this is the camaraderie that cements a brotherhood and makes it worthwhile. The same with the scientific energies. They will relinquish to the higher energies who oversee these. That’s why John will be hearing from Sananda.  This is why Al will be hearing from Uriel in the form possibly of Ramtha. I hope he cuts that out completely. You'll receive from the highest of your guides, Michael, Germaine. They're in charge of this program and ultimately Sananda and ultimately don't forget I Am. You can call on Hatonn all you wish. 
[Oberli] He says, I am, I guess.
That's important. That is the I Am presence of God. It is with every one of you. And as Hatonn fragments go completely, there is total, all total creation and knowledge. As Hatonn, I keep my own limits as commander of this project. I will not overreach my bounds. And I would step aside and let's hear what grandfather has to say. Know that it comes in love. This is not discipline session. It just sounds like it. What we are doing is changing. Always there must be change and growth. And as you get many ones with you, it cannot be haphazard. There has to be direction. And the one I have the most difficulty with is the scattering of this one's energy. She just takes off, just bang, bang in every direction. And there is no one physically capable of doing it. So what gives the most important part of your project. Shut the circuits, clean the floor. My word, Jay Gritzner came and complained because the house wasn't clean. And she laughed, that was funny. But you know what? As her bare foot stuck to the floor as she walked through the open way there, wham, all circuits down, mop out. No way. I would refuse that. So we need to come to some joint conclusions. With not about this blame house, don't misunderstand. We must now have open participation from all parties. We need input. We're going to start our conferences. Note I did not say committee meetings. I set conferences, progressive conferences, where we discuss probabilities, possibilities, and solutions. And for every problem, I want answers, possible solutions. I'm chairman of the board. I will relinquish that. After I frazzle the bullpen, I'm not noted for my graciousness all the time. In fact, this is where I'm noted throughout the universal system. This is why I got the project. But I don’t ever hurt her and this is why she turned me off. And there's not one in this room, not just totally relieved to the base of your soul that I finally said it. Because you cannot function in disorder. And all of you are looking for direction. So now we're going to draw up our own directions. So let's hear from Grandfather and then we'll move on. 
[Oberli] Alright.
23:38
Now, we know that the earth is going to shift. There will be an interplay between the one on the ground who is a geologist and understands, already understands, the training is already done, and Soltech. But until that connection is made and those functions are well underway, there are things that must transpire here. There are messages that must be gotten here. There are days when I will call an earthquake alert. That's because Soltec has told me, I don't know if we can hold it brother. And if he has a contact here, I don't have to tie up my mouthpiece with his message, do you see? And there is no way for you to know that without inquiry. Your entire background training, if you've had any at all on a conscious level and Allen has had very very little and I'm going to wipe out most of what the rest of you have had. So you're going to have to unlock one as fast as you learn. You don't need the bullshit of sitting in a pile of rocks on top of a hill to reach me. That is really getting in my way quite frankly, and you never need it for grandfather. He really, in fact, objects to everybody running out there making medicine wheels. That means something. That is power. And you ones don't know what you're doing. You're going to attract things like electricity, brother. And this is a little private between Randall and me. And sometimes it's going to get out of control and you're going to get grounded and you're going to get dead. That's what those tell you. And that's what the Golden Eagle would tell you. Or Red Eagle. Don't play in those games until you know and you know how to receive of it. And the ones running around Sedona carrying their little stones and moving somebody else's stones, the whole world there is covered with amateur medicine wheels, pulling the power of the universe into those centers. It's more and beyond asking for inner guidance. You're bringing the power of the energies of the highest realms down on your head. And you don't know what to tell them to do when they get there. You better believe when you call them in. And it's been experienced in this household, they come from the four corners of the universe. And you've never experienced the whirlwind like that. And that's ignorance. Not stupid, ignorance. And ones will tell you they know how to do it, and they don't know how to do it. They don't know how to do it. They misuse and play the game. It's not a game. It is not a game. A medicine wheel is a signal to the highest energy in the universe to come. And because they understand and make allowances for the amateur who thinks he's going to sit in a sweat lodge and come with a total vision quest, he’s going to come with a bad case of sweat, for he doesn't know of what he does. These are the old teachings and traditions of the ancient brothers. And unfortunately there is a black list as you would call it, of Indian leaders that are three pages long who have sold their traditional values for things such as these. Pay me for a book, I'll tell you how to meditate.  Go build a little ring of rock and you don’t know how to use the energy when it arrives. And I am not blasting you ones.  I tell you be cautious because as you come into your power knowledge, the ignorant youth along with the power you're learning will blow you away. You'd be better not to practice anything other than a little sage burning to clear your atmosphere because the minute you strike a match to a leaf of sage you already have the power and you have just triggered the thought and darkness will remove from that area. But when you start playing with the feathers and the pipe and you have achieved the energy level that you want in this room have achieved, you're playing with pure atomic dynamite and this is the discipline.
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